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OfflineCurious_George
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straw to straw???
    #1000208 - 10/28/02 04:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hellluewwww everyone!!!! har har har..

question:: Can i successfully transfer colonized straw to another rubbermaid container with fresh pasturised straw to start a new casing???

or is it needed to have grain, mullet, brf cakes etc.... transfered from jars to start it up?

I was thinking of using depleted straw to kickstart a new bin!

any ideas all?


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Re: straw to straw??? [Re: Curious_George]
    #1000305 - 10/28/02 04:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

my gues is you can do it, but contams risks are higher than in grai-to-grain, or other teks. still, try and report back :smile: 


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Re: straw to straw??? [Re: comario2]
    #1000316 - 10/28/02 04:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

awsome.. i can see some time saving herre!! if it works well that is.

oh, and just becaue i was curious a bit of info::

. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRAW AND HAY?
Straw has more fiber and less nutrition than hay. Straw and hay can
actually be the harvested from the same plants (oat straw and oat hay for
example). The difference is how long the plant grows before it's
harvested. Hay is cut during the early stages of growth. The younger the
plant is when the hay is cut, typically the higher protein and nutrition
in the hay, when compared to the same plant. The best hays are usually
cut before the plant flowers. Straw, on the other hand, is allowed to
set seed and mature before cutting. This increases the amount of fiber
and decreases the amount of animal available nutrients in the plant.
Most grass/crop type plants die after they set seed, so all the nutrition
is transferred from the stems and leaves into the seeds. Straw is
typically a by-product of the grain industry.

IV. HOW DO I TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRAW AND HAY?
The way I was taught to tell straw and hay apart is that straw is yellow
and hay should be green. Straw is more golden, and the stems are usually
larger than typically found in hay (it's a more mature plant). Good hay
should be green and smell fresh. Hay will last for as long as a year
without losing any significant amount of nutrition as long as it is kept
dry and out of the sun. Wet hay will mold and the moisture can cause
nutrients to leech out of the hay. Direct sunlight will cause nutrients
to break down.


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Re: straw to straw??? [Re: Curious_George]
    #1000619 - 10/28/02 06:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

this technique is known as superspawning, ie colonise some straw, use the colonised straw to spawn more straw etc. etc.
you can colonise loads of straw this way, but it's best to use freshly colonised straw, not spent stuff.


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Re: straw to straw??? [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #1002785 - 10/29/02 11:15 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

So now that we know the difference between the 2, is it better to use the green hay then the straw for mushroom cultivation??? will there be a diff in yield? Is feed nutrient different then mushroom nutrients?

info???

cg


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[Re: Curious_George]
    #1002867 - 10/29/02 11:56 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: straw to straw??? [Re: Curious_George]
    #1003433 - 10/29/02 04:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I've only used hay once, and didn't have a problem with it. As long as you use lots of spawn, or a spawn with a lot of potential innoculation points eg millet, hay should colonise fine without contamination. The point is to get it colonised as quickly as possible.
I didnt't notice any difference in yield from the hay, as although it's more nutritious it has less bulk to it.


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