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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10016854 - 03/21/09 09:42 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Come back Mr. Al~  I want to have fun conversations with you!  :benfranklin:

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10018193 - 03/22/09 03:58 AM (15 years, 11 days ago)

Just a few short years ago talk of the possibility of a world bank was considered tin foil hat material, now its all over the place.

There are so many people, hopelessly enslaved, mentally dependent on the system that they are not ready to be unplugged.  They NEED their illusions. They love big brother, and there isn't anything that can be done for them.  People are much more comfortable repeating what they saw on a glowing blue box than face the darker reality that is really there.  I well imagine there will be people who will be clinging to this down to the bitter end.

It's going to take people a while to realize that they have been robbed to the tune of TRILLIONS of dollars, if ever.

Who seriously thinks the economy could be BAILED OUT after what happened with the first great depression?? It's total doublespeak, they need to start naming these things for what they are.

Here are some suggestions Ive come up with for them :

Pretending to stop torturing directive

Destroying The Economy Act

Making Patriots Terrorists Act

Leaving your children behind

The Poisoning Your Food Act

The Breathable Air Tax

Militarization of Police Act

Global ID Act

Domestic Spying Immunity Act



lol i could go on forever



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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10018909 - 03/22/09 10:00 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Are you concerned about the national debt?

What happens when other nations refuse to buy our debt through T-bills??

What would happen if our debt was called in for payment?

The value of the dollar would plummet.

The creation of money backed by nothing is what allows the government to grow out of control.

Government spending has been the cause of our problems since 1913.

Meams, I am curious to know as to whether you care about the economic well being of the American citizens.

Since the inception of the federal reserve the U.S. dollar has lost between 95%-98% of it's value.

The federal government is addicted to deficit spending, much like a junkie addicted to heroin.

Do you honestly believe that the increase in big government and massive debt is sustainable?

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10018986 - 03/22/09 10:27 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

its sustainable as long as there's still fat on our bones.  women used to be house wifes.  now women work, and children do to!

how long before our babys are trading stock at computers and giving tips on cell phones?

as long as we still have freedom's, they still have resources to acquire.  and they will  acquire them.  how long are we awake and how long do we have to sleep?  how many hours do we work?  how much food do we cook at home?  hey i wonder when grocery stores will be obsolete? 

the gov will grow until they have full control, that is there innate goal.  it doesn't stop at our boarders, it never has.  we are consumers, china is producers, all our worlds are going global.  the globe is one big business, a business that writes its own rules. 

all you have to ask yourself is what a perfect business with no rules, wants and can do.  and we can never revolt because this shits global now, we need there connections to survive


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10019035 - 03/22/09 10:40 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

I have noticed how soft the bankers and their ilk look.

People that have been oppressed learn how to survive.

I personally think that if it came down to it the nwo architects would have their asses handed to them.

People who have nothing left to lose save their lives are very dangerous and resourceful.  The people are growing immune to the disinformation and social conditioning.

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10019089 - 03/22/09 10:57 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

yah they realize that, which is why they do everything in baby steps.  whenever they take something away, they reinforce, while we don't like it but put up with it, and the next gen grow up thinking its normal because they never experienced life with or without it.

in the end it will be like that movie demolition man, ticket machines in every room.  camera's everywhere, cars on auto pilot, fail-safes on butter knifes w/e that means :lol:  and don't forget tacobell takes over:smilingpuppy:


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10019103 - 03/22/09 11:03 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Lately even some people in the media have been waking up.  They don't have as much control as they appear to.  They intimidate and coerce through fear.  That fear is a projection of their own messed up internal experience.

Fact is, the individuals who are conducting the shenanigans are frightened out of their minds.  Their control is very illusory.

The more they try to control things the faster it slips from between their fingers.  This is always what has happened with psychopaths that attempt to control the world.  Their efforts were doomed to fail before they started.

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10019139 - 03/22/09 11:15 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Mr.Al said:

Are you concerned about the national debt?

What would happen if our debt was called in for payment?


Meams, I am curious to know as to whether you care about the economic well being of the American citizens.

Do you honestly believe that the increase in big government and massive debt is sustainable?



Not at the present moment, and I am fully aware that it is a problem that must be addressed sooner rather than later

Probably a war, since we wouldn't pay it - and nobody could take it from us.

Yes, of course I do-

No, what rational human being would honestly believe that?

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: Mr.Al]
    #10019145 - 03/22/09 11:17 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

but thats the beauty of overpopulation, a rise from poverty would never work.  the enemy is everywhere...yet nowhere.  not only that but we depend on our enemy now, we can't function without them.  thats why we will never uprise.
  and while overpopulation is a big enough difference on its own, we are in the age of machines and technology, which is an overbearing difference from the past.  with enough  technology, and enough (need to know basis), the power of an entire world can be controled by one man.  and all those below him are replaceable. 

if you dine in hell, its best to do it with a nice view :hellfire:


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: DropScience]
    #10019175 - 03/22/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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Who seriously thinks the economy could be BAILED OUT after what happened with the first great depression?? It's total doublespeak, they need to start naming these things for what they are.



:facepalm:

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10019179 - 03/22/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Cool post.:thumbup:


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: DropScience]
    #10019270 - 03/22/09 11:39 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

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Just a few short years ago talk of the possibility of a world bank was considered tin foil hat material, now its all over the place.




We'll never have a worldwide central bank.  Shit, the Euro zone is having enough troubles with just their SINGLE CONTINENT.  The fact of the matter is, economic situations differ between countries, regions, and geographical zones - and we could never have a single entity governing monetary policy over the entire area.

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10019365 - 03/22/09 11:56 AM (15 years, 10 days ago)

you can if you turn everyone into little ann franks, create a global minimum wage, and global taxing system.  then we just install mcdonalds/tacobells and walmarts everywhere and we have a global market place with global prices :tongue:

i dunno something like that, but it could be done eventually


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10019446 - 03/22/09 12:11 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

what im trying to figure out is...

...if there are already so many dollars in the system, what is adding a trillion more to it really going to do?

maybe im completely off on this...

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: LayYouIn]
    #10019621 - 03/22/09 12:50 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

It's not going to do anything since none of the currency is circulating - with everyone sitting on their cash.  Get your loans now before the Fed has to reverse rates in a hurry to suck up all the excess liquidity once the economy turns around.  They're going to need a might-big-vacuum to suck up all the cash they've been spittin out for the past 18 months.

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: LayYouIn]
    #10019673 - 03/22/09 01:00 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

well my understanding is, its sort of like how they gave us stimulus checks for free, but instead, we have to give them a stimulus check...by paying more everytime we buy something...plus interest on that trillion for however long it takes us to pay it off....and seeing as how we have only added to our debts for the last 2000 years, that means we will be in debt until the antichrist shows his face and gives us 100 lashings with his molten chains for every dollar we owe him seeing as how by that time we will be stripped down to our skin and bones.

basicly when we got our stimulus checks they printed money and inflation happened so our money lost some value.  this time they printed money....put it in a black box....hushed it away somewhere.  and inflation will happen again...only we didn't get a check to spend this time.


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10019698 - 03/22/09 01:06 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

Don't you people understand that inflation only comes into existance when there is more money in circulation?  I mean, that's what inflation is:  more of a unit-of-trade (cash) for the fixed amount of goods out there at this point in time. 


The main point here is that MONEY IS NOT BEING CIRCULATED.  That is why the fed has been pumping it out, trying to loosen up the credit markets - so that liquidity (and all that money) can start MOVING through the economy.

Until that happens, inflation is not an issue.  And when inflation becomes an issue, the Fed will deal with it accordingly.

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10019746 - 03/22/09 01:12 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

i don't totally understand it no, but if there's loans not being paid, with money people didn't have, and then they come in and pay that bad debt off...someone is getting money somewhere right?

and inflation is already an issue, the feds ain't doin shit...not for me and the bullshit prices at the grocery


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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #10019799 - 03/22/09 01:22 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

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and inflation is already an issue, the feds ain't doin shit...not for me and the bullshit prices at the grocery



The Fed controls the money supply, not the food supply.  Complain to the extra 1,000,000,000 in China & India that now have the ability to buy groceries like Americans.  Tell them you want your $0.75 savings on Tomstone Pizza's back.

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Re: Every US man, woman and child went an additional $4.000 deeper in debt last wednesday [Re: memes]
    #10019986 - 03/22/09 01:58 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

so how did they manage to lower rates without affecting the money supply?


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