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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Kada]
    #10003497 - 03/19/09 07:16 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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For people who think civilians shouldn't have assault rifles; Why shouldn't they? When is the last time you saw civilians running around with assault rifles killing Innocent people? Most gun crimes are committed with hand guns. What is banning assault rifles really going to help?





some people dont seem to panic over shit like that, I get the feeling there's far too many liberal cry babies in the world




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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10003691 - 03/19/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Were is that pris.........I am ready to move the fuk out of this country already.
This is the last country left to go up in flames and do a little genocide or mass slavery of its own people.Everyone here is waiting on some sort of false armageddon to go down ,I want out before americans start killing americans.
I dont think america will move on untill the big one breaks out,its like people are just laying in wait for chaos to break out and go nuts.
There are a few like you and some others,that have weapons to defend thier families,most have them for the end of the world ,which i dont think they will be happy untill blood flows in the street.

At first ,you kill to defend your way of life ,then you will kill your fellow americans for a can of beans or cup of rice to stay alive.....I want out before that happens...soo where did you say those pics were took?


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10003757 - 03/19/09 07:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Kada said:
For people who think civilians shouldn't have assault rifles; Why shouldn't they? When is the last time you saw civilians running around with assault rifles killing Innocent people? Most gun crimes are committed with hand guns. What is banning assault rifles really going to help?





some idiots dont seem to panic over shit like that, I get the feeling there's far too many people who think idiots think that just having your weapon showing will keep insane fucks om shooting you in the world







Let me fix that...there. If I saw that, I'd panic. A handgun is one thing, that is not the same. And once again, IT WONT STOP A TANK OR PLANE. I don't get why people keep ignoring this fact, like they have selective reading visors on. The "take back our gov." argument is as dead and buried as Washington to the sane people. The only real arguments are from hunters who are to wimpy to take a chance with a bow, and little old ladies who can't defend themselves, even then an assault weapon? It's called "assault" and not "defensive" because it's so big and powerful you can't pocket it for an emergency, and it's used to fight other people with assault weapons, and guerrilla soldiers who still can't really stop a tank. That's why we occupy Iraq, and Israel Occupies Gaza. If our government went all fanciest on us, that is what whoever resisted with force would be.


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: doom876]
    #10003841 - 03/19/09 07:56 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

what I'm hearing is that you buy into the bullshit of the media

I was stopped by a cop for an illegal right turn, on my way to a
gun range, we had the car loaded with guns and ammunition, I
informed the cop there were firearms in the car, he asked us to
step out and point to where the weapons were, there were some in
the front with us and more in the trunk, several were NFA weapons
as the range allowed full auto weapons, the cop had no issue with
it and admired the collection, in fact most people never had much
issue with me carrying openly regardless of the weapon

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: doom876]
    #10003873 - 03/19/09 08:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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doom876 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Kada said:
For people who think civilians shouldn't have assault rifles; Why shouldn't they? When is the last time you saw civilians running around with assault rifles killing Innocent people? Most gun crimes are committed with hand guns. What is banning assault rifles really going to help?





some idiots dont seem to panic over shit like that, I get the feeling there's far too many people who think idiots think that just having your weapon showing will keep insane fucks om shooting you in the world







Let me fix that...there. If I saw that, I'd panic. A handgun is one thing, that is not the same. And once again, IT WONT STOP A TANK OR PLANE. I don't get why people keep ignoring this fact, like they have selective reading visors on. The "take back our gov." argument is as dead and buried as Washington to the sane people. The only real arguments are from hunters who are to wimpy to take a chance with a bow, and little old ladies who can't defend themselves, even then an assault weapon? It's called "assault" and not "defensive" because it's so big and powerful you can't pocket it for an emergency, and it's used to fight other people with assault weapons, and guerrilla soldiers who still can't really stop a tank. That's why we occupy Iraq, and Israel Occupies Gaza. If our government went all fanciest on us, that is what whoever resisted with force would be.




I would not panic, and see that quite often.  I've gone to gun shows where every other person has an AR with all the accessories, flashlights, lasers, etc.  Seeing people with one in the grocery store would make me stop and think, but i still wouldn't panic, they are all over here.  My buddies and I take out our assault rifles (which we have had for a cumulative total of over 40 years, and none of which have assaulted a single person) and go shooting all the time, its great fun.  Also, when (not if) shit hits the fan, if you don't have one, please don't come to my house for more protection, i don't need to carry dead weight...I have enough for everyone in my family to have one, and not enough extra for the anti gun people that are being gunned down with no protection.

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: supra]
    #10003943 - 03/19/09 08:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I used to live in a place where people would carry loaded AK-47s around the market.
Didn't bother me one bit. Why? If they wanted to shoot up the place they'd be doing it already! If you saw someone walking around with a swiss knife do you get scared they are going to start slitting throats, or if you see a Sikh with a dagger, which their religion requires them to carry?

I highly recommend the Penn and Teller gun control episode for anyone to watch.



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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: supra]
    #10003966 - 03/19/09 08:15 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

This time, don't go blaming the media. It's done alot of bad things, but what you said is foolish.

It's not so much the media, it's the people I see. It's stories of rednecks going out and blasting coyotes, and morons getting drunk and violent. Appealing to the better aspects of human nature, and giving someone a weapon fit only for the military and mafia gangsters are two different things.

I don't see the attraction people have to these things. I thought they banned automatic weapons anyway. I don't want people I know and meet having that shit around me, and if I see it I'll yank it off their shoulders, take it home, and scrap that shit. It's worse then blowing smoke in your face, it's just as bad as having guns to your head when people can just swing those things around and start firing if they happen to snap.

If you want aromatic weapons, move to Somalia.


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: doom876]
    #10004044 - 03/19/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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It's not so much the media, it's the people I see. It's stories of rednecks going out and blasting coyotes, and morons getting drunk and violent. Appealing to the better aspects of human nature, and giving someone a weapon fit only for the military and mafia gangsters are two different things.




blasting coyotes? I've lost chickens to coyotes, my neighbors do
as well, they affect my  lively hood and they dont stop when I
ask, a few violent drunks doesnt mean assault weapons should be
banned, they're more inclined to pull a knife or a pistol in a
drunken brawl, your argument makes no sense


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I don't want people I know and meet having that shit around me, and if I see it I'll yank it off their shoulders take it home, and scrap that shit.




to me that's an act of aggression as well as theft and here you
are talking about  rednecks that are obviously doing no harm to
other human beings, drunks in bar fights yet you'd act as the
aggressor if you saw someone shouldering a weapon they legally
own.... your morality is fucked and I'm sure if you tried that
someone would probably escalate that violence to a level that
might land you in the morgue


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it's just as bad as having guns to your head when people can just swing those things around and start firing if they happen to snap.




no, those pictures demonstrate no threatening act, it's
completely different and your snatching them from someones
shoulder suggests that anti-gunners are more likely to snap than
those that own guns

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If you want aromatic weapons, move to Somalia.




been there, the guns smell the same as the guns here

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10004088 - 03/19/09 08:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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If you want aromatic weapons, move to Somalia.




been there, the guns smell the same as the guns here





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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Green_T]
    #10004120 - 03/19/09 08:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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I used to live in a place where people would carry loaded AK-47s around the market.
Didn't bother me one bit. Why? If they wanted to shoot up the place they'd be doing it already! If you saw someone walking around with a swiss knife do you get scared they are going to start slitting throats, or if you see a Sikh with a dagger, which their religion requires them to carry?

I highly recommend the Penn and Teller gun control episode for anyone to watch.





That was by far the best video i have seen in awhile.  :congrats:


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: psilyguy]
    #10004124 - 03/19/09 08:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That fucking sucks!

People should be able to own assault rifles semi automatic and full auto, silencers, drum magazines and light machine guns. I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed.

The only 2 things I like about America is their military force and love of war, the other is the fact that redneck hick hillbillies could just carry em in the back of there pickups and shit, being allowed to do that is fucking awesome.


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: hpi]
    #10004170 - 03/19/09 08:49 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You are such a mindless America hater. It's pretty much absurd.

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Redstorm]
    #10004206 - 03/19/09 08:56 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That's cause you're an American :redneck:

If you look at how the rest of the world views America you'd see that I'm not alone in my hatred. I got my reasons and I don't need to share them.

I didn't even mention my hatred in this thread, I just said the only 2 things I like. I don't wanna fucking start anything cause then It'll get out of hand.

Weapons should be allowed and not taken away. That's just taking more rights away.


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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: psilyguy]
    #10004218 - 03/19/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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If you want aromatic weapons, move to Somalia.



been there, the guns smell the same as the guns here



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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: doom876]
    #10004671 - 03/19/09 10:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Let me fix that...there. If I saw that, I'd panic. A handgun is one thing, that is not the same. And once again, IT WONT STOP A TANK OR PLANE. I don't get why people keep ignoring this fact, like they have selective reading visors on. The "take back our gov." argument is as dead and buried as Washington to the sane people. The only real arguments are from hunters who are to wimpy to take a chance with a bow, and little old ladies who can't defend themselves, even then an assault weapon? It's called "assault" and not "defensive" because it's so big and powerful you can't pocket it for an emergency, and it's used to fight other people with assault weapons, and guerrilla soldiers who still can't really stop a tank. That's why we occupy Iraq, and Israel Occupies Gaza. If our government went all fanciest on us, that is what whoever resisted with force would be.




Only what civilians can buy are not actually Assault Weapons. They are semi auto. Assault Weapons was name given to them by anti-gunners not gun enthusiasts since it would be incorrect to call them that unless you are fear mongering.Only by this point it the name has stuck. Even then your argument has no constitutional basis what so ever. If anything handguns are less constitutional.

Btw did you know Rifles are only used in 3% or gun crime according to the FBI?. And that doesnt even separate Semi-auto rifles from others.It's probably less than 2% for AW.

And did i read that right are you saying a AW can shoot stop a tank or knock down a plane?:lol:

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: buckwheat]
    #10008015 - 03/20/09 01:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10008102 - 03/20/09 01:59 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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doom876 said:
It's not so much the media, it's the people I see. It's stories of rednecks going out and blasting coyotes, and morons getting drunk and violent. Appealing to the better aspects of human nature, and giving someone a weapon fit only for the military and mafia gangsters are two different things.




blasting coyotes? I've lost chickens to coyotes, my neighbors do
as well, they affect my  lively hood and they dont stop when I
ask, a few violent drunks doesnt mean assault weapons should be
banned, they're more inclined to pull a knife or a pistol in a
drunken brawl, your argument makes no sense


Quote:

I don't want people I know and meet having that shit around me, and if I see it I'll yank it off their shoulders take it home, and scrap that shit.




to me that's an act of aggression as well as theft and here you
are talking about  rednecks that are obviously doing no harm to
other human beings, drunks in bar fights yet you'd act as the
aggressor if you saw someone shouldering a weapon they legally
own.... your morality is fucked and I'm sure if you tried that
someone would probably escalate that violence to a level that
might land you in the morgue


Quote:

it's just as bad as having guns to your head when people can just swing those things around and start firing if they happen to snap.




no, those pictures demonstrate no threatening act, it's
completely different and your snatching them from someones
shoulder suggests that anti-gunners are more likely to snap than
those that own guns

Quote:

If you want aromatic weapons, move to Somalia.




been there, the guns smell the same as the guns here



Get a less nasty lively hood then using animals for slaughter, and if its eggs you want, get a really good fence around your property. We encroach on them, just because they are "lesser".

You don't know if the people I talked about are rednecks, or drunk.

If taking your assault rifle from your "cold dead hands" makes you that pissed, don't have them. Most people get that that is overkill. You don't need to shoot off a whole barrage of bullets in a second for anything but killing another thing with little intention of missing. Like I said, if you need it for hunting, then maybe you shouldn't hunt(like the fuckers who internet hunt).

Yeah, they look non threatening, but there is no reason to have those weapons. And a picture says little, what if the person has a bad temper like the man who killed his girlfriend then himself here near where I live? Great, make it easier to push the kill button on someone!

Bottom line, I understand a rifle, or a shotgun, but when you start having stuff like those women, go live on a desert island with no people, kill yourself, or invade a small country.
Honestly, it's like my thoughts on pot, I have no respect for someone's want to own a war weapon to use in any way. It's not even in the same league as a hunting rifle, that is why machine gun crimes are an A felony, because they are that dangerous. You think an accidental pistol shooting is bad, what if you were out hunting with that behemoth and slipped, tapping the trigger and hitting someone? There is no reason to have them unless you are a cop, or criminal.

By the way, some of this is a little "devil's advocate", I know most people are responsible, though I am iffy on the assult weapon stuff, and have yet to be convinced that they have any place in civil society)


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Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

Edited by doom876 (03/20/09 02:03 PM)

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: doom876]
    #10008166 - 03/20/09 02:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I'm willing to bet FAR FAR less crimes are committed with 'assault' rifles than pistols.  I would not know where to begin to look, but i would put money on MANY times more people getting killed in this country by handguns than by assault rifles.

How many gang members do you see carrying around assault rifles?  Now how many do you see carrying pistols?  How many robberies are committed with assault rifles over pistols?

>>Bottom line, I understand a rifle, or a shotgun, but when you start having stuff like those women, go live on a desert island with no people, kill yourself, or invade a small country.

>>I don't want people I know and meet having that shit around me, and if I see it I'll yank it off their shoulders take it home, and scrap that shit.

You sound a LOT more violent than any person I know that owns assault rifles, including myself.

>> that is why machine gun crimes are an A felony, because they are that dangerous.

Assault rifles are NOT machine guns, all civilians can get without some crazy ass licensing are semi-automatic rifles, just as they can get semi-automatic shotguns, which close up, would do a hell of a lot more damage.

Also, the gun itself isn't dangerous, some people are dangerous, but a gun just sits there on its own, does not get up and hurt anybody, that takes a person.

>> There is no reason to have them unless you are a cop, or criminal.

I'm not a cop or a criminal, but sure as hell want to have one to be able to defend myself against both cops and criminals (sometimes one and the same).

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: supra]
    #10008207 - 03/20/09 02:15 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Less people are killed by assault weapons because they are not common really, and you can't hide them well at all. Now imagine if any wannabe criminal or cruel, law abiding jerk(like the people I mentioned, shooting things from their truck) could get armed to the teeth with ease. They are illegal most places I believe, here at least. This isn't some third world country where we are protecting ourselves from an everpresent evil.


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Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

Edited by doom876 (03/20/09 02:16 PM)

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Re: IS OBAMA Taking OUR GUns AWaY??? [Re: Kada]
    #10008238 - 03/20/09 02:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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This is just the first step in his plans. He doesn't want americans having guns at all.




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