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dry cakes
    #9882483 - 02/28/09 05:39 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well ive done my first harvest, but my cakes seem dry and almost grayish, dont get me wrong, there are shrooms growing on the cakes but in very slow speed and the cakes seem very dry.
I fan 2-3times a day and humidity is about 93% in the case.
heres a pic from one of them


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Re: dry cakes [Re: sushi84]
    #9882492 - 02/28/09 05:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

After you harvest this flush then dunk them to rehydrate them.


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Re: dry cakes [Re: Spongiform]
    #9882499 - 02/28/09 05:45 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeas but only 3shrooms were harvested, theres still pins coming out

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Re: dry cakes [Re: Spongiform]
    #9882503 - 02/28/09 05:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

do you mist directly on the cakes?


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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882506 - 02/28/09 05:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

no not directly on the cakes, i mist on the side of the box and som of the perlite. BUT theres noway not getting some mist on the cakes how hard you try, but no not on the cakes

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Re: dry cakes [Re: sushi84]
    #9882510 - 02/28/09 05:50 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You should mist the cakes directly, it doesnt hurt pins or anything.  they soak up the water and use it to make your mushrooms bigger.  I do it EVERY time, most of my misting is on my cakes.
This is what my pint cake looks like right now.  Thats going to be over 10g dry first flush!!  I also dunked and rolled this cake.


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Edited by RedDevil420 (02/28/09 05:52 AM)

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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882513 - 02/28/09 05:52 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

hmm really ? ive heard that the cakes get easily contaminated when you mist directly mist on the cakes, but ive got nothing to loose at this point though

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Re: dry cakes [Re: sushi84]
    #9882516 - 02/28/09 05:54 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

one more thing. im bored and have 2 fully colonized PF tek jars. can i just sterilize som rye in a deep foil box, crumble my cakes and mix it with the rye to make a bigger spawn ?

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Re: dry cakes [Re: sushi84]
    #9882517 - 02/28/09 05:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i have no contams, they get plenty of good air exchange though - and i used vermiculite because I had no perlite.  If you can see it, my pinset was so dense the cake is drying out from the mushrooms pulling the water from the cake.  Its a deep blue.  I hosed it down last I checked on it.


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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882522 - 02/28/09 05:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

no just spawn to bulk, if you want to innoc grains and do G2G (you can make 10 new jars with 1) then use agar, learn how to isolate and test isolates.  innoc a grain jar with a proven isolate and get beautiful fruits..  if you feel like taking the time to learn that is.


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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882526 - 02/28/09 06:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Try to avoid getting big drops of water on your caps and try not to mist so much that you have standing water puddles on your cake.

But otherwise, yeah mist it right on.  It doesn't hurt them at all.


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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882527 - 02/28/09 06:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

RedDevil420 said:
no just spawn to bulk, if you want to innoc grains and do G2G (you can make 10 new jars with 1) then use agar, learn how to isolate and test isolates.  innoc a grain jar with a proven isolate and get beautiful fruits..  if you feel like taking the time to learn that is.




yeah that is the next step, i was just wondering if the rye version works, i just want to test it because i have the sub at home. just raw rye and mix it with colonized cakes, cover with aluminimum foil and som holes, and wait for whole sub to colonize ?

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Re: dry cakes [Re: Spongiform]
    #9882529 - 02/28/09 06:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Spongiform said:
Try to avoid getting big drops of water on your caps and try not to mist so much that you have standing water puddles on your cake.

But otherwise, yeah mist it right on.  It doesn't hurt them at all.




i will do that, mist the cakes but try not getting driops on the caps, roger. Can i just poor water in the perlite and not mist at all ? will that keep humidity high? i have a heating mat under my box

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Re: dry cakes [Re: sushi84]
    #9882530 - 02/28/09 06:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i find MS has way too much variences.  you can't do doses properly because of potency differences.


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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882533 - 02/28/09 06:05 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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RedDevil420 said:
i find MS has way too much variences.  you can't do doses properly because of potency differences.




hmm okej i see

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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882538 - 02/28/09 06:08 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you don't need a heating mat.  room temperature is fine.  the mat will increase your contam rate.  i usually avoid misting the caps, but i also let them sit out uncovered to dry off a bit after i mist them.

last i checked on them they grew and inch in 4 minutes when i removed the lid.  i couldnt put it back on.  i ended up extending it


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Re: dry cakes [Re: sushi84]
    #9882540 - 02/28/09 06:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You can spawn your cakes to a bulk substrate, like coco coir, corn cob, spent coffee, straw, horse manure and so on.

But if you try that with grains that will very likely contaminate.


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Re: dry cakes [Re: Spongiform]
    #9882545 - 02/28/09 06:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

hey spongiform, this is off topic sorry but how long do you have to wait for pf spawned to coir/coffee/verm to colonize fully if you know?


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Re: dry cakes [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9882546 - 02/28/09 06:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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you don't need a heating mat.  room temperature is fine.  the mat will increase your contam rate.  i usually avoid misting the caps, but i also let them sit out uncovered to dry off a bit after i mist them.

last i checked on them they grew and inch in 4 minutes when i removed the lid.  i couldnt put it back on.  i ended up extending it




i also have a air pump 100l/h that is on 20min everyday and i mist about 1-2times a day and of course i fan manually one or twice a day.
i got between 71.6 and 77F in the case

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Re: dry cakes [Re: Spongiform]
    #9882548 - 02/28/09 06:13 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Spongiform said:
You can spawn your cakes to a bulk substrate, like coco coir, corn cob, spent coffee, straw, horse manure and so on.

But if you try that with grains that will very likely contaminate.




well coco coir is hard to find here, can i spawn only with coffe :laugh: ?

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