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Offlinecsrpj
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drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience
    #9874863 - 02/27/09 07:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

are there there any others besides MDMA? alcohol, coke, doesn't count.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: csrpj]
    #9874888 - 02/27/09 07:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Opiates.


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #9874902 - 02/27/09 07:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Khat is said to serve as a good social lubricant.

God, I feel weird every time I use that term lol.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: truffleupagus]
    #9874909 - 02/27/09 07:38 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I've actually found oral DMT to be pretty good for conversation, moreso on the comedown though.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: truffleupagus]
    #9874914 - 02/27/09 07:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I've never had access to khat?

I have heard it is speedy.

Is it numbing, like coke?

Also, is it at all like kratom with opiate-like effects?


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: truffleupagus]
    #9874939 - 02/27/09 07:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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truffleupagus said:
I've actually found oral DMT to be pretty good for conversation, moreso on the comedown though.




wait, tell me more about oral DMT! ...though you could only smoke it. is this similar to ayhuasca?

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: csrpj]
    #9874952 - 02/27/09 07:48 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

that is ayahuasca.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: ReefaCheefa]
    #9874958 - 02/27/09 07:50 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Well yeah, the one experience that I had in mind was really pharmahuasca but same difference.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: truffleupagus]
    #9874971 - 02/27/09 07:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What is pharmahuasca?

A certain pharmeceutical is used as a MAOI?

What is it and does it counter the nausea?


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #9874992 - 02/27/09 08:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Pharmahuasca is just like ayauasca, except you substitute the caapi for another maoi like syrian rue. It is not ayahuasca in the traditional sense, but it still works. As far as nausea...I don't know if its defeated. Still a strong drug.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: ReefaCheefa]
    #9875007 - 02/27/09 08:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Why would you call it pharmahuasca when you sub rue for caapi?

Are you sure that is what truffleupagus is refering to?

Terminology varies pretty widely when different parties make reference to specific recipes.


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #9875026 - 02/27/09 08:08 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Because it cannot aquire the name of ayahuasca? Ayahuasca is a traditional method of making this brew by a lot of natives. Ayahuasca is caapi and chacruna especially.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: ReefaCheefa]
    #9875040 - 02/27/09 08:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Adderall does. But it's not worth the side effects.


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #9875062 - 02/27/09 08:15 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Swyfty Swyf said:
Why would you call it pharmahuasca when you sub rue for caapi?

Are you sure that is what truffleupagus is refering to?

Terminology varies pretty widely when different parties make reference to specific recipes.




In my case, we used extracted dmt in capsules and rue extract, also in capsules.  There are also pharmaceutical maois that can be used in place of the rue.  I think one is called marplan.

I didn't puke but my wife did.  So yeah, the nausea isn't eliminated entirely and I suspect that it doesn't have the same medicinal value.  But not having chills was one benefit over the brew.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: truffleupagus]
    #9875095 - 02/27/09 08:27 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In a social setting, the vomiting would go over like a turd in the punch bowl. :rabble::puke:


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #9875148 - 02/27/09 08:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Adderall.


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9875247 - 02/27/09 09:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

2C-B.

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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9875339 - 02/27/09 09:18 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

methylone.


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: drunkenlawngnome]
    #9875622 - 02/27/09 09:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

If your with really good friends.  LSD.  When im around people im comfortable around, i connect with my friends on another level that's not possible with sobriety.  Same goes for MDMA.


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Re: drugs besides MDMA that enchance social aspect of experience [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9876658 - 02/27/09 12:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i find having a cig seems to enhance social encounters..
i dont know exactly why but talking to someone with a cig is better
than without... = \


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