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Weed and cig's
    #9857399 - 02/24/09 04:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Why is it that whenever i smoke a cigarette after i smoke a spliff/blunt, i seem to get higher?


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: RussianScholar]
    #9857409 - 02/24/09 04:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Speeds up your metabolism and heart rate, spreading more THC throughout your system... would be my guess.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: jimbotron]
    #9857499 - 02/24/09 04:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

because nicotine + thc = more than just thc.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: Pigasus]
    #9857521 - 02/24/09 04:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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because nicotine + thc = more than just thc.




cigarettes after I smoke weed make me feel :whoo:


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: AnarchyXx420xX]
    #9857546 - 02/24/09 04:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I outgrew ciggys a long time ago. happy to not have smoked one in pretty damn long. when I am high it makes me more aware of how nasty they are, rat poison and cancer entering the lungs.  I have nothing against cig smokers but I am happy to say that I would never touch a cig anymore, a jay on the other hand maybe  :bigblunt:

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: skatealex2]
    #9857842 - 02/24/09 05:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I outgrew ciggys a long time ago. happy to not have smoked one in pretty damn long. when I am high it makes me more aware of how nasty they are, rat poison and cancer entering the lungs.  I have nothing against cig smokers but I am happy to say that I would never touch a cig anymore, a jay on the other hand maybe  :bigblunt:




thats strange, its the opposite for me, the only time i enjoy tobacco smoking is when im stoned and it kinda makes me less tired and have more energy. on the other hand if im not high they just kinda seem nasty and make me feel shitty.

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: MkUltra117]
    #9857890 - 02/24/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I don't smoke cigs anymore, but I used to love lighting one up after getting good and stoned.  Add alcohol into the mix and you've got the recipe for a headrush of delicious nicotinic euphoria.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: MkUltra117]
    #9858012 - 02/24/09 06:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I outgrew ciggys a long time ago. happy to not have smoked one in pretty damn long. when I am high it makes me more aware of how nasty they are, rat poison and cancer entering the lungs.  I have nothing against cig smokers but I am happy to say that I would never touch a cig anymore, a jay on the other hand maybe  :bigblunt:




thats strange, its the opposite for me, the only time i enjoy tobacco smoking is when im stoned and it kinda makes me less tired and have more energy. on the other hand if im not high they just kinda seem nasty and make me feel shitty.




that's weird. another problem for me even back when I did smoke cigs, would be if I was smoking bongs, cigs would just hurt my lungs and throat even more than if I wasn't smoking ganJ

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: deCypher]
    #9858047 - 02/24/09 06:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't smoke cigs anymore, but I used to love lighting one up after getting good and stoned.  Add alcohol into the mix and you've got the recipe for a headrush of delicious nicotinic euphoria.




I have been trying to quit for 3 weeks now..... have only gone 3 full days without a smoke....

But thats what I want. :tongue:

I want to grow some tobacco, use a long indian style pipe and take major rips of harsh, biting smoke , have my lungs clench a bit, and get a massive head rush while my extremities get numb.

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: skatealex2]
    #9858243 - 02/24/09 06:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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skatealex2 said:
I outgrew ciggys a long time ago. happy to not have smoked one in pretty damn long. when I am high it makes me more aware of how nasty they are, rat poison and cancer entering the lungs.  I have nothing against cig smokers but I am happy to say that I would never touch a cig anymore, a jay on the other hand maybe  :bigblunt:





Yeah, same here. I used to be a social smoker, but then I realized how stupid it was. It's like paying the government for a slow death.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: alternatereality]
    #9858249 - 02/24/09 06:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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skatealex2 said:
I outgrew ciggys a long time ago. happy to not have smoked one in pretty damn long. when I am high it makes me more aware of how nasty they are, rat poison and cancer entering the lungs.  I have nothing against cig smokers but I am happy to say that I would never touch a cig anymore, a jay on the other hand maybe  :bigblunt:





Yeah, same here. I used to be a social smoker, but then I realized how stupid it was. It's like paying the government for a slow death.




haha yea. we seem to agree on many things :mushroom2:

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: RussianScholar]
    #9858912 - 02/24/09 08:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Probably part placebo...I hear this from so many people, "Dude, smoke a cigarette after you blaze and it increases your high by 2x"

Apart from the likely placebo effect. Smoking weed actually opens up your lungs an allows more oxygen intake, or whatever else you are inhaling. So, when smoking a cig after blazing you are going to probably get more nicotine into your system rather than smoking a cig before blazing....Producing a bit more a a nicotine rush.

But another downfall of smoking a cig after toking. Since weed does open up your lungs all those tars and carcinogens from the cig have a chance to work there way into you even that much more. Nicotine constricts the lungs, THC does the opposite.

There have been several studies, though, that show people who are daily cig smokers and daily pot smokers have a lesser chance of developing lung cancer than those that are just solely daily cig smokers....


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: openmind]
    #9874926 - 02/27/09 07:43 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Probably part placebo...I hear this from so many people, "Dude, smoke a cigarette after you blaze and it increases your high by 2x"

Apart from the likely placebo effect. Smoking weed actually opens up your lungs an allows more oxygen intake, or whatever else you are inhaling. So, when smoking a cig after blazing you are going to probably get more nicotine into your system rather than smoking a cig before blazing....Producing a bit more a a nicotine rush.

But another downfall of smoking a cig after toking. Since weed does open up your lungs all those tars and carcinogens from the cig have a chance to work there way into you even that much more. Nicotine constricts the lungs, THC does the opposite.

There have been several studies, though, that show people who are daily cig smokers and daily pot smokers have a lesser chance of developing lung cancer than those that are just solely daily cig smokers....




Actually, cigarettes are a mild MAOI. I would assume this plays a bigger role than placebo effect :smile:

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: ReefaCheefa]
    #9874956 - 02/27/09 07:49 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Probably part placebo...I hear this from so many people, "Dude, smoke a cigarette after you blaze and it increases your high by 2x"

Apart from the likely placebo effect. Smoking weed actually opens up your lungs an allows more oxygen intake, or whatever else you are inhaling. So, when smoking a cig after blazing you are going to probably get more nicotine into your system rather than smoking a cig before blazing....Producing a bit more a a nicotine rush.

But another downfall of smoking a cig after toking. Since weed does open up your lungs all those tars and carcinogens from the cig have a chance to work there way into you even that much more. Nicotine constricts the lungs, THC does the opposite.

There have been several studies, though, that show people who are daily cig smokers and daily pot smokers have a lesser chance of developing lung cancer than those that are just solely daily cig smokers....




Actually, cigarettes are a mild MAOI. I would assume this plays a bigger role than placebo effect :smile:






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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: openmind]
    #9874959 - 02/27/09 07:50 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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:orly:  :macdre:





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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: ReefaCheefa]
    #9874972 - 02/27/09 07:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Haha...

Well i must admit i never knew that.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: openmind]
    #9874987 - 02/27/09 07:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't actually "looked into it", but yea cigs are a mild maoi, so I would only assume that this is what seems to intensify the effect.

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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: Shad0w]
    #9875599 - 02/27/09 09:52 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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deCypher said:
I don't smoke cigs anymore, but I used to love lighting one up after getting good and stoned.  Add alcohol into the mix and you've got the recipe for a headrush of delicious nicotinic euphoria.




I have been trying to quit for 3 weeks now..... have only gone 3 full days without a smoke....

But thats what I want. :tongue:

I want to grow some tobacco, use a long indian style pipe and take major rips of harsh, biting smoke , have my lungs clench a bit, and get a massive head rush while my extremities get numb.



The nicotine content in un heat treated tobacco is such, that if you smoked it like weed it would kill you, dead. The indians only took it into their mouth, not even into their lungs, and some still couldn't take it.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: doom876]
    #9877283 - 02/27/09 01:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yep.  In fact, if you dissolved a cigar in a glass of water and drank it, you would die.  Nicotine is a very effective poison.


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Re: Weed and cig's [Re: deCypher]
    #9878666 - 02/27/09 04:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I know i cant quit cigs as long as i still smoke pot. but it seems to straighten my buzz out, im more cognative after a cig. but i have agree nicotine + THC = more than THC

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