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Is this loph baby albino!?!
    #9833254 - 02/20/09 12:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What luck I would have if my first ever loph grow produced an albino...

Whattaya think?





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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Ledd]
    #9833273 - 02/20/09 12:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

it's green.


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9833303 - 02/20/09 12:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Green huh? Maybe the picture is misleading. In person its a yellow-white color. In the top photo, your looking at the one on the right side, correct?


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9833317 - 02/20/09 12:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah it'll darken once it gets bigger. Definitely green.


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Ledd]
    #9833319 - 02/20/09 12:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yellow/green, same thing, it has chlorophyl.
it is normal for some to start out a bit pale, it will green up i bet.
if it were an achlorophyllous seedling it would be obvious.



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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9833334 - 02/20/09 12:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It looks like the achlorophyllous seedling in that photo grabbed some flash unless its radioactive too lol.

I'll keep an eye on it. It's definitely different from the others as far as my eye can see. I'm sure it will be more conspicuous in a few weeks.

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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Ledd]
    #9833337 - 02/20/09 12:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, it looks just to be a less motivated seedling than the rest. A few of mine looked that way in the beginning. Some are less perky than others, its just the way of things :shrug:
After a while itll more than likely perk up become a nice healthy green as the others.
But dont we all deep down wish to discover a morph or mutation, and see what we want to see sometimes? :yesnod:

Any time I see something that seems out of the ordinary, i think to myself, Oh shit look, its gonna be crested!:lol:


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: satyr]
    #9833344 - 02/20/09 12:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Haha ya maybe thats it. I have another one thats growin kinda crooked over and it has a red line half way up and a red dot on it. My imagination tells me its gonna be a crest but I'm pretty sure it just has "sea legs" so to speak.


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Ledd]
    #9833353 - 02/20/09 12:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9833375 - 02/20/09 12:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Lol der.


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Ledd]
    #9835429 - 02/20/09 08:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

No that loph is normal
bad pic but you can see how white it is, this little guy died at a few weeks old I tried to graft him but he did not make it.



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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Juke Adro]
    #9835451 - 02/20/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeah i need to sow a couple hundred loph seeds to find some albinos, varigates and if im luck maybe cristates. i wonder why you dont see monstrose lophs?

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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: durban_poison]
    #9837533 - 02/21/09 08:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

more like 10,000 lol


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9841420 - 02/21/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thats what I was thinking doc. :lol: It would be nice though.

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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: ethnoguy]
    #9841516 - 02/21/09 09:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

albino=missing 1 or more pigment....so a solid yellow, pink, red, orange or white plant is still albino because ti is missing one, or more, of its pigments.

unfortunately with most cacti species an albino is pretty susceptible to various ailments, some more than others....so you need to be very careful with them to avoid things that may cause cell damage....over watering, sunburn, pests etc.  they may die easily, at least compared to ones with more green.

good luck with it...fingers crossed for a variegated :smile:


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: kadakuda]
    #9841528 - 02/21/09 09:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks kada, you put a smile on my face lol.


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9841993 - 02/21/09 11:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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more like 10,000 lol




for cristates? no maybe 400-800. i found 2 albinos in 20 loph seeds my first time 5 years ago. unfortunately i wasn't well versed in grafting back then. i have found 2 cristates so far in about 400 trichocereus seeds of different varieties and one that is really wierd but its too small to tell(2cm). when people say cristates or monstrose plants are one in a thousand i believe they are using that as a saying. it maybe true with in some lots of seed but if you start 4 different lots with 100 seeds each you are sure to find something odd. so far i have found a cristate ss02xpachnoi, a cristate "los gentiles", and a very strange kk339 which produces double areoles and has no symetry.

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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: durban_poison]
    #9842393 - 02/22/09 02:13 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

completely random it seems unless you knwo the parents....1 in 1, 1 in a million, can never know until they grow or you may have an idea at best if you knwo the parents.  some things like variegation are often co dominant, so you can generally be sure of some with a cross between at least one variegated parent...usually.  hybrids also tend to have really high % of mutants, including variegateds and crests.


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Re: Is this loph baby albino!?! [Re: durban_poison]
    #9842498 - 02/22/09 03:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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more like 10,000 lol




for cristates? no maybe 400-800. i found 2 albinos in 20 loph seeds my first time 5 years ago. unfortunately i wasn't well versed in grafting back then. i have found 2 cristates so far in about 400 trichocereus seeds of different varieties and one that is really wierd but its too small to tell(2cm). when people say cristates or monstrose plants are one in a thousand i believe they are using that as a saying. it maybe true with in some lots of seed but if you start 4 different lots with 100 seeds each you are sure to find something odd. so far i have found a cristate ss02xpachnoi, a cristate "los gentiles", and a very strange kk339 which produces double areoles and has no symetry.



consider yourself lucky then.
1:1000 for cristate plants is what most people say.
i think achlorophyllous seedings are rarer, especially in non hybridised cacti.
we all know that hybridising can lead to more genetic mutation.


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