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Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics)
    #9752471 - 02/06/09 09:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So I have been growing some Pleurotus Pulmonarius (The lung oyster) in my greenhouse and am having great success, but I'm getting weird mutations.  I just thought that I would share.

Here is what I saw two days ago.  Beautiful oysters (that need a little more FAE):


Today I looked inside to find this:


WTF?  Here are a few that I got for a close-up:






It seems as though the gills were spontaneously becoming new fruit bodies.  At first I thought that the mushrooms were rotting or reacting to something, but the mycelium is firm and healthy.  They taste great too!


Cool huh?


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: gluvbox]
    #9752506 - 02/06/09 09:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

FAE IMO.


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: obi]
    #9752518 - 02/06/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

FAE causes the gills to turn into new fruit bodies!?!  :omgawesome:


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: gluvbox]
    #9752550 - 02/06/09 09:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah... your FAE is definitely too high.


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: gluvbox]
    #9752558 - 02/06/09 09:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

No, what I was thinking was that the lack of of FEA allowed the spores to germinate on to the fruitbody itself.


I know, crazy...correct me thx...


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: obi]
    #9752937 - 02/06/09 11:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Gotta love retards.


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: PitcherCrab]
    #9753164 - 02/07/09 12:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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PitcherCrab said:
Yeah... your FAE is definitely too high.




Is it possible for your FAE to be too high during fruiting if you keep the humidity up?

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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: Drunk Monkey]
    #9753245 - 02/07/09 01:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

LOL THIS THREAD IS :awesome:

best mutation ive seen yet, gills on the cap dont come close to pins for gills!

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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: CptnGarden]
    #9753400 - 02/07/09 02:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Stamets shows a pic like that in Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms on page 115. His "parent mushrooms" look a little decayed, which yours don't.

The caption reads:
"I photographed this unsavory package directly after purchasing it from a major grocery store chain.  Mushrooms in this condition , if eaten, cause major gastrointestinal distress.  This is the "Sajor caju" variety of Pleurotus pulmonarius also known as the Phoenix Oyster Mushroom, and has been a favorite of large scale producers. Subsequent to harvest, hundreds of fruit bodies form on the decayng mushrooms."

I don't have and opinion or know what to conclude from this, but I'm telling you what I saw.

I found this really cool:  I bought some oyster mushrooms at the local supermarket.  Wanting a spore pring, I put them under a glass on a sheet of paper. The glass steamed up so bad that I put a Starbucks napkin under the mushroom and glass, hoping to provide a little ventilation. The mushroom "furred" and then mycelium grew strongly into the napkin.

I have a culture still growing from this event, now on some sawdust mixed with urine.

It seems that conditions like extreme humidity and the availablility of food supply can put a fruitbody back into mycelial mode.  I am speculating that your mushrooms got somehow "confused" and re-foremd pins a second time.  What causes it, I have no idea.

Thanks for sharing.


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: obi]
    #9753539 - 02/07/09 04:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

:confused:


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: obi]
    #9753798 - 02/07/09 08:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I have the same thing on some of my grow right now, just not as severe. Is this about a lack of humidity?

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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: gluvbox]
    #9754062 - 02/07/09 09:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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FAE causes the gills to turn into new fruit bodies!?!  :omgawesome:




P. pulmonarius is infamous for growing fruit bodies off of one another. They'll do that in storage as well if the co2 gets too high in the container and left for too long. Grow P. ostreatus or another variety of oyster once you get those straightened out. Your co2 levels are too high.

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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: Hotnuts]
    #9754398 - 02/07/09 11:06 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

These remind me of an Arnold movie. I think it was Total Recall.  There is a character in it that is an ugly little dude growing from the torso of another regular size guy.  I think his name is Cuato or something.  Anyway I have seen pins form on some old oysters once.  Now when I have them they only are around for a day or two before they make the trip to some fine eatery.


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: LokelYokel]
    #9761134 - 02/08/09 04:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Your CO2 is too high, need better FAE, and they are starving for light.


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Re: Lung Oysters with odd mutation (lost of pics) [Re: gluvbox]
    #9764662 - 02/09/09 07:20 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Nice pics gluvbox. I love mutations. i would agree that's a lack of air exchange problem.


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