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veggie
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*Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [CA]
#9739150 - 02/05/09 04:18 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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February 3 - California NORML has confirmed reports of four
DEA
raids in L.A. today. Contrary to rumor, no doctor's office was raided.
The raids were all "smash and grab" operations: agents took medicine
and money, destroyed surveillance cameras and grabbed computers, but
did not arrest anyone.
The professionalism of the operations was questionable. In one
case, agents reportedly failed to leave a written receipt for cash that
was seized. No rhyme or reason was apparent in the selection of
targets, other than they were in the same neighborhood. Agents gave no
reason for the raids other than that marijuana is still illegal, but
apparently suggested that they wanted to act fast before receiving new
orders.
California NORML believes that recent DEA conduct resembles
nothing more than legalized piracy, and calls on supporters to remind
President Obama of his pledge to end DEA raids...
EMERGENCY
PROTEST OF DEA PIRACY - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th
Feb 5th, NOON
Los Angeles Federal Building
255 E. Temple St.
Call on Obama
to End the DEA Raids in California and
To Support
Change in UN Drug Policy
Download the
Obama flyer
Ca NORML/East Bay chapter meeting
Thursday, February 19, 7:30 PM
Oaksterdam University Student Union
1915 Broadway, Oakland (across from O.U.
classroom)
Open to all interested activists
Protest the Federal War on Medical Marijuana!
Monday, February 23, NOON
LA Federal Court House MAIN STREET SIDE
312 N. Spring St, Downtown Los Angeles
NOW AVAILABLE
2008 edition Medical
Marijuana Handbook
by CalNORML director Dale Gieringer, Ed Rosenthal and Dr. Greg Carter
Show
Your Support for California NORML!
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SpencerGNobleman
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: veggie]
#9739170 - 02/05/09 04:35 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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everyone in california should show up. We don't have time for this war on marijuana bullshit when our country is being ruined by morons who don't know how to get high.
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fltdriver82
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: veggie]
#9739188 - 02/05/09 04:50 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I support everything NORML is doing but I do not think I will be taking the chance of the DEA sniffing around my backdoor by calling or e-mailing the whitehouse. I do feel for all of those that have been harassed by a Government Agency because they are doing something that the state they live in says is okay. This all sounds vaguely familiar (Boston Tea Party, Revolutionary War). How many times do Americans have to relieve themselves of oppressive governments overstepping their boundaries and encroaching on the civil liberties of it's citizens. The only difference here is the people they are picking on. You will not find any minutemen or generals among those being targeted, only the weak, the sick, the dying, and the stoned. None of which are capable of standing up to a government hellbent on controlling every aspect of their lives.
This is outrageous and I think it is about time that REAL action was taken. No protests, no waiting for Obama to hold up his end. What these people need is munchies and a revolution. What a perfect time for the pot heads of America to stand up and take action. Every night I come to shroomery to read through the cultivation forum for tips and tricks and stop by the "news stand" on my way out. Every night I am appalled and sickened by what I read here.
The only problem I see is that all the people that really care don't want to get involved because they are partaking in something illegal (growing, smoking, selling, etc). I think we need to start with the next generation. Our kids need to be educated that people have the right to make their own decisions, and should be free to carry out those decisions so long as it does not cause bodily harm to others. If Joe Smith wants to smoke pot it should be his decision, not the governments. If Billy wants to eat mushrooms, that is his choice. I'm sorry but protests and petitions will get you no where and hand cramps. Agencies like the DEA need to be dissolved. It isn't the Drug Enforcement Agency anymore, it has become the Dicking Every American organization. I smell change though. Raids like these need publicity. Every American needs to know what is really happening in the War on Drugs. And screw Ronald Reagan and his wife for starting all of this.
Sorry for ranting, long day, no bud, and too many stories on grandma and the cancer patient getting F'ed in the A with no end in site.
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neopet nub
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: fltdriver82]
#9739282 - 02/05/09 06:07 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol, maybe they were fake DEA agents who just needed some weed.
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filthee
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: neopet nub]
#9739359 - 02/05/09 06:38 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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why would they be fake?
the real ones have proven themselves to be outright murderers and thieves
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clover606
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: filthee]
#9739603 - 02/05/09 08:38 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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there should be protests all around the country. then i could go, in fact if i had some method of traveling 3000 miles in less than a day id be there today.
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Green_T
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: clover606]
#9739674 - 02/05/09 08:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bush Holdovers Continue
Obama's hands are basically tied; he must choose a new drug czar or these raids will go on. The DEA is a "rogue" agency at the moment. I hope the protest fixes on nominating a good drug czar. For those who don't know, the head of the ONDCP is chosen as the drug czar. The DEA does not maintain marijuana's schedule 1 status; that is the responsibility of the Department of Health and Human Services. Once H&HS changes their scheduling, there will be major change. Until then, it is still schedule 1, and we have a Bush appointee who thinks its as bad as heroin.
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mycoprog
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: fltdriver82]
#9739739 - 02/05/09 09:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
fltdriver82 said: I do not think I will be taking the chance of the DEA sniffing around my backdoor by calling or e-mailing the whitehouse.
lol, paranoid much?
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Lakefingers
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: mycoprog]
#9740532 - 02/05/09 12:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, well, certain people in the dea have their hands in drug trafficking. it's a great operation to do all the illegal stuff under the cover of legality
if we weren't poor and weak we wouldn't care about justice. we'd just pay off the right people (i.e. infiltrate government agency or organization of choice) and get what we wanted. unfortunately, that's how it has always worked.
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mushroomluver
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: Lakefingers]
#9740992 - 02/05/09 02:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think we should all get a permit to protest, then EVERYONE light up a joint? what they gonna do, arrest hundreds or even thousands of people?
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buddhabadger
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: mycoprog]
#9741093 - 02/05/09 02:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
mycoprog said:
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fltdriver82 said: I do not think I will be taking the chance of the DEA sniffing around my backdoor by calling or e-mailing the whitehouse.
lol, paranoid much?
Not paranoid enough by half. Not when the DEA is involved.
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Edited by buddhabadger (02/05/09 04:07 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: mushroomluver]
#9741323 - 02/05/09 02:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I support everything NORML is doing but I do not think I will be taking the chance of the DEA sniffing around my backdoor by calling or e-mailing the whitehouse.
The police or DEA will not investigate you for calling and emailing the whitehouse. There are many ways to be investigated, but that is not one of them.
Even if they did investigate people who complained about the drug laws, I would still do it all the time because I am not going to let the government coerce me into not speaking up and trying to change things.
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This is outrageous and I think it is about time that REAL action was taken. No protests, no waiting for Obama to hold up his end. What these people need is munchies and a revolution.
What I hear you saying is that you are afraid to communicate with your legislators, so instead you are going to sit home and do nothing.
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i think we should all get a permit to protest,
You do not need a permit to protest.
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then EVERYONE light up a joint? what they gonna do, arrest hundreds or even thousands of people?
A lot of people smoking joints in the street would give the governmedia all the ammunition they need to make the protesters look like stupid stoners that just want to stand around get high.
When protesting, especially for drug related causes it is important to look respectable.
I always wear a shirt with a collar and dress pants when I go to a medical marijuana protest.
The first one I went to was in San Jose in 2002. A reporter asked me if she could ask a few questions, so I said yes and my quotes were published in this local newspaper article. They asked what my name was and I said Alan Rockefeller, that is how I came up with my current username.
I keep calling the white house comment like at 202-456-1111 but it is busy, probably with people who are calling about the economy. So I wrote him a letter instead. Here is a short article on writing a letter to the president.
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Green_T
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#9741540 - 02/05/09 03:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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A lot of people smoking joints in the street would give the governmedia all the ammunition they need to make the protesters look like stupid stoners that just want to stand around get high.
When protesting, especially for drug related causes it is important to look respectable.
I always wear a shirt with a collar and dress pants when I go to a medical marijuana protest.
Alan Rock! I've been saying that for a while as well. Nothing hurts the marijuana movement more than protesters who walk around looking shaggy, banging drums, and wearing tie-dye and such. When "outsiders" see protesters like that, they just shrug them off as hippies, or spoiled college kids and put up a wall, ignoring whatever the protester's message is. Protests are partially for socializing and networking, but that isn't their main purpose.
If you really want to raise awareness, act respectable, look respectable, and carry information to disperse (leaflets, fact sheets, etc). Don't disrespect other people, and engage outsiders politely. Don't give critics ammunition or stereotypes to act on.
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johnm214
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: Green_T]
#9742125 - 02/05/09 05:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alan is exactly right.
And I have to say I email the whitehouse and my state and federal legislative reps (and some that aren't) at least once a month along with the sherrif and I've never been visited or got anything beyond a reply email thanking me for my views.
Like allan said, I'm not going to let them scare me into retracting my rights to petition and speak.
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N2loma
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: johnm214]
#9742208 - 02/05/09 05:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sadly you DO typically need a permit to protest, at least if its a gathering of any size. At least that's my experience in NY, VA, and DC. Keep in mind that many places you assume to be public (e.g. the sidewalk) is often privatized. The "right to public assembly" is regulated to the point of near-fiction.
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Dementous
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: N2loma]
#9742260 - 02/05/09 05:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I pledge my enslavement, to the flag, of the United States of Authoritarianism and to the Businesses, for which it stands, one nation, no longer under God, already divided, for enslavement and corruption for all.
Our rights are going out the door, wave bye-bye!
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veggie
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [CA] [Re: veggie]
#9742577 - 02/05/09 06:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Protesters condemn medical marijuana raids February 5, 2009 - sfgate.com
The Obama administration should halt federal raids of medical marijuana dispensaries, a long-sought turnaround from the policy of the Bush White House, protesters said Thursday.
The Drug Enforcement Administration raided four dispensaries in the city this week and seized 500 pounds of marijuana, bringing fresh attention to the rift between state and federal law on medical marijuana use. President Barack Obama said during the campaign he would not use the Justice Department, which oversees the DEA, to circumvent state laws.
Dozens of demonstrators gathered outside a downtown federal office building to call on the DEA to cease the raids, which also seized $10,000 in cash. They chanted "Obama stop the raids" and "DEA go away."
"Somebody forgot to tell them all the rules are changing," said Don Duncan of Americans for Safe Access, an advocacy group that promotes medical marijuana use and research.
California is among the states that allow the sale of marijuana for medicinal purposes, but the federal government has not recognized those laws. "Anyone possessing, distributing or cultivating marijuana for any reason is in violation of federal law," said DEA spokeswoman Sarah Pullen.
But Obama has said he will change direction.
"I think the basic concept of using medical marijuana for the same purposes and with the same controls as other drugs prescribed by doctors, I think that's entirely appropriate," Obama told the Mail Tribune of Medford, Ore., in March. "I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue."
Pullen directed questions on medical marijuana policy to the Justice Department in Washington. On Thursday, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said "the president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws. As he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind."
Outside the federal building, protester Sarah Armstrong said she thinks marijuana should be illegal, but not when it comes to sick people in pain. The 55-year-old retired paralegal uses medical marijuana to ease the pain of arthritis that nearly forced her to stop driving.
"I think it's medicine, not a party," she said.
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Lakefingers
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: mushroomluver]
#9747313 - 02/06/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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mushroomluver said: i think we should all get a permit to protest, then EVERYONE light up a joint? what they gonna do, arrest hundreds or even thousands of people?
idle dreams
although if it did happen it would be up in the tens of millions; would make obama's inauguration look like a joke
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Lakefingers
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Re: *Action Alert* Emergency Protest Of DEA Piracy - LA Federal Bldg - FEB 5th [Re: Dementous]
#9747328 - 02/06/09 12:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dementous said: I pledge my enslavement, to the flag, of the United States of Authoritarianism and to the Businesses, for which it stands, one nation, no longer under God, already divided, for enslavement and corruption for all.
Our rights are going out the door, wave bye-bye!
Americans have been saying this since the 1810's (at least). was the US government ever any better than the British?
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