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Religion and extraterrestial beings
    #9693023 - 01/28/09 04:36 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, I have to ask, and I expect a wide variety of answers. Please, there is one assumption to this thread, and if you disagree and cannot take the assumption for the sake of argument, then I ask you to leave or just read.

If we made first contact with an intelligent alien species, and upon further discussion, it was revealed that they had no concept of any god, and that they were for the sake of labeling, scientists or naturalists or whatever you want to call it... how would you react? How would your religion and it's leaders react? Would we declare war on the aliens? Would we attempt to convert as many of the "heathens" as possible? How would these aliens fit into your religion's ideology? To the Christians, are they part of god's "plan?" Would they be included as part of Revelations as somehow part of the apocolypse?

What if they looked nothing like us? What if they were not even carbon-based? In other words, what if they were not "made in god's image?"

These are just a sampling of the questions I have on this subject. If you have the general idea of the vein of thought, please feel free to elaborate.


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693045 - 01/28/09 04:59 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

The pope (was it the pope or some other famous religious figure?) said recently that he accepts ET beings and they are part of god or something like that...

Most religions tend to adapt to new concepts.  The bible itself has been re-written many times to fit new ideas and have unacceptable old ideas removed.

Personally I'm not religious, I don't expect another man or old book written by man to be able to tell me the answers to the universe.  I'm not even evolved enough to comprehend them!

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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ego Death]
    #9693059 - 01/28/09 05:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That would seem to suggest that they would have every intention of converting them.  What if none converted?  What if they spoke harshly of religion or held some other theology and attempted to convert us?


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693068 - 01/28/09 05:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think asking aliens if they believed in Jesus would be one of the funniest things you could do. If they said no you could start trying to convert them. "Let me tell you about the greatest story ever written."

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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: DimensionX]
    #9693076 - 01/28/09 05:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

:rofl2:

then the aliens would be pissed and start doing the mars attacks scenario.


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693117 - 01/28/09 06:09 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Not really.  I think more likely they would convert their own views or simply ignore the alien ideas.

Religions already ignore the fact that every human culture ever known to of existed has made up answers to the big questions and every culture has made DIFFERENT answers.  Almost all of these religions are supported by ancient texts (bibles), prophets and have god(s).  Religions have to operate under ignorance.  If they accepted the truth, if they actually looked from a 3rd person perspective on all the different human cultures and their religions then they would have to accept the only logical conclusion is that it is the nature of mankind to invent answers to the unanswerable which result in religions.

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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693122 - 01/28/09 06:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I cannot speak for anyone but myself but if intelligent ETs revealed themselves to us I would need to ingest some psilocybin before I could even begin to wrap my head around the implications of their arrival.

The culture shock would be huge and I think mass marketed religion as we see it today would isolate itself to those who are in deep fear and denial of what is happening. The regular Xtian, who stays faithful to his religion yet is by no means a fundamentalist, would work towards expanding his worldview to include and accept the new species (that is if government doesn't convince him otherwise).


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #9693138 - 01/28/09 06:22 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Its not just religions that are the problem with ETs.  As a species we are in a fundamental denial.  Not many people are willing to accept that their could be beings more advanced than us.  The implications of this are to great.  It means we are completely at their mercy and we are not as powerful and advanced as we like to think.

It took me years to change my world view on ETs even after encountering the evidence first hand.  I was to scared to accept it.  I'm still scared today but not as scared anymore.

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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693163 - 01/28/09 06:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't want to speak for them or anything, but they would probably think religion is both hilarious and terribly tragic at the same time.
As they would most likely, be scientists and explorers.. with a vast understanding of the Universe far beyond what we know.
Certainly, it would be a shock to religion and common beliefs in general, at the very least.
Making peace with and attempting to understand our visiting friends, would be in our best interests.


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ego Death]
    #9693179 - 01/28/09 06:50 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeah if aliens came i'd be like oop, fuck this motherfuckers i'm goin to space pce

everything would be nuts. no one would wanna work anymore they'd wanna chill with the aliens.


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: igwna]
    #9693210 - 01/28/09 07:13 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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yeah if aliens came i'd be like oop, fuck this motherfuckers i'm goin to space pce




Yup, lol

Unless of course Shroomism is dead wrong and space selects more for psychotic, survivalist, diehard fascists.


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Re: Religion and extraterrestial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693299 - 01/28/09 07:54 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

that would suck though


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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: igwna]
    #9693450 - 01/28/09 08:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What if their ship landed, and out walks Moshe, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, and Krishna?


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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: blewmeanie]
    #9693457 - 01/28/09 08:55 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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What if their ship landed, and out walks Moshe, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, and Krishna?




Turnabout is not fair play :crankey:


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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693459 - 01/28/09 08:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What would Ferris do?


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    #9693481 - 01/28/09 09:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: blewmeanie]
    #9693496 - 01/28/09 09:30 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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What if their ship landed, and out walks Moshe, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, and Krishna?




is this a joke?


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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: Ferris]
    #9693499 - 01/28/09 09:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I'd ask a hot alien chick if I could help "improve interspecies relations," and then I'd see if I could bum any free alien drugs off her




yeah totally! i dig your steez ferris fo sho


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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: igwna]
    #9693546 - 01/28/09 09:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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What if their ship landed, and out walks Moshe, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, and Krishna?




is this a joke?






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Re: Religion and extraterrestrial beings [Re: blewmeanie]
    #9693702 - 01/28/09 11:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think if ETs descended upon Earth they would have full knowledge of our religions and religious history.  They wouldn't find it stupid and useless.  In fact, I'd bet they would reassure it's place in human history as a way of progressing progress at all costs.  If it wasn't for religion, there would have been no need for the pyramids, or all the wars that furthered technology, etc. 

In my imagination, ETs would declare themselves part of a new generation of human history, an interstellar and robotic human.  Religious organizations would cry foul and try to adapt, but they'd be lost in the progress and lack of necessity, and no one would look back.


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