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First time monotub questions.. (pics)
    #9680731 - 01/26/09 03:13 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

This is my first monotub that I have colonizing right now and have a few questions some that I've read but can't find and some just needed to know.

The setup.

Used a 21 quart clear tub with a tall lid not flat for extra height. My mix was a brick of coir, quart of verm, quart of coffee an about a cup of gypsum. (only had pelleted gypsum so a cup was all I could take crushing). Pasteurized the mix an let cool. I drilled a couple 1inch holes into the sides and put a black garbage bag in the bottom of the tub.. than spawned my rye to it layer by layer up to 4inches deep.

Questions

My black garbage bags weren't big enough to stick my tub into so I used a clear bag to put the tub in and twisted the end very tight I was going to knot it but didn't, an I cut two of the black bags and covered the tub with them.

Was closing the clear bag the right thing or should I of just covered the tub with the cut black bags?

I was stupid and didn't realize how much extra the bag was in the tub coming up the sides and the one side fell onto the substrate, I was going to cut it when I cased it, will the bag on the sub cause any problems? The bag was wiped down with alcohol right before putting the sub an spawn in...

I also used breathable tape to cover the holes in the tub, I was going to change to polyfil when I was going to case. Any comments on just leaving the tape or change to polyfil?

The temp in the room ranges from 69-72, I don't know if that is high enough for proper tub colonizing, I've read so many different things m, I know the temp of the sub should be 5-10 degrees higher so I thought 72 is right... Am I?


here are some pictures i took on the 24th and the 26th

Taken on 3-24-09


Taken on 3-24-09


Taken on 3-26-09


Taken on 3-26-09 *This picture you can see the black bag on the sub, its in the front of the picture


sorry for the resolution an quality of pictures i own a very good camera and just couldn't get a good shot through all the condensation and clear bag tied over it. So I had to size them down for decent viewing.

please if you can help thank you, as this is my first tub i would like things to go smooth. any questions just ask anything at all.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: deathw]
    #9680737 - 01/26/09 03:18 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Pics above. Thanks shroomery


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: deathw]
    #9680813 - 01/26/09 04:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I've also read so many different ways to grow.My self i incubate at dead balls 86f and fruit at just a bit lower.I know some say fruit in the 70's.To low of temp slows...to high bakes.I also keep notes.Hope it helped.

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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: drp_46]
    #9681111 - 01/26/09 08:02 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I keep notes on everything I do, but since this is a first tub not trays in my martha or cakes in my shotgun its different so I have nothing to base my progress on.. only experienced growers can help comment on what path I should take or what I should fix, since there advice will be based off of there grows an experiences they have encountered.. which i hope you guys can help with =)

thanks so much.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: deathw]
    #9681145 - 01/26/09 08:12 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

hes a lil guy.  I think the lil tubs have better pin sets... and results. pound for pound of bulk sub.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9681164 - 01/26/09 08:20 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

the tub isn't little maybe the way the picture looks but not little, but it doesnt matter if i can go through with this first tub than i'll start using my hpoo an straw.

any input on my questions.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: deathw]
    #9681177 - 01/26/09 08:23 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

lol, ur top tub is what I saw... thats a 18 gal on bottom, got it double stacked too hmm, wrap it in a black trash bag. Wrap the top with press n seal, or cyran wrap. you dont need dub tubs. I need to rephrase, use the 18 gallon. Then cover it with cyran wrap it will be clear, and replace that 21 qt tub. Then just use a trash bag over the hole thing. Takes up less space. You should search how large dose does his.. its pretty tight. stacks them all in a corner. I know this is probably you first or second one, but after this your going to want to do more.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9681417 - 01/26/09 09:34 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

wow 86F is far to high, especially for a bulk substrate. You want to get that down to room temp. During colinisation your sub could well be hitting over 90F in a bulk substrate.

Why have you got your monotub covered with a black trash bag?? You dont need to block out light. Light doesnt have any effect during colinisation. All you must ensure is that your tub is only getting gas exchange.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9681419 - 01/26/09 09:36 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry for the tripple post, my internet crapped out. Had to turn off modem


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9681427 - 01/26/09 09:40 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry

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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9681449 - 01/26/09 09:46 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Looks ok except for the trash bags.  You don't need to wrap it up like that or block out light.  The micropore tape over the air holes is all you need to do.

It does need to get SOME gas exchange, so wrapping it in plastic might cause it to not get enough and it might stall out. 

Here's a tub I have colonizing, 18 gallon, same size as yours:



I've got vents installed and stuffed with polyfill during colonization.  Once it's colonized I'll simply remove the polyfill from the vents and place the tub near a fan on low.

It's got a view port installed on top so it can be light and also it lets me look in to check on colonization without having to open it.

Your temps are fine for colonization and fruiting.


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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: Spongiform]
    #9681498 - 01/26/09 09:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm that is a pretty cool lookin monotub...
Mind if I ask where the vents came from and what is used for the viewport?

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Re: First time monotub questions.. [Re: StonyPeach]
    #9681532 - 01/26/09 10:06 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Everything I used on that tub came from lowes.  18 gallon rubbermaid tough tote.  Four 2" circular soffit vents.  1 Acrylic panel.

Costs approximately $20 to make one.  $7-9 for the tub(prices always changing) $8 for 6 vents.  $4 for a big panel that you cut in half and use for 2 tubs.  Plus some duct or gorilla tape to hold it in place.
Also, 25 cents worth of polyfill.

I have no idea why, but home depot only sells plastic vents and lowes only sells aluminum vents but they're the same size, same price.

Home depot (mine anyway) doesn't sell the right size tubs though.


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