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Visionary Tools
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Thankyou St Johns Wort
#9671291 - 01/24/09 02:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been suffering depression half my life. I had a horrible course of SSRI's that I quit, followed by lots of brain zaps. I hope that the damage it caused was only temporary.
I take a gram of this wonderful weed every day. £1.49 buys me 30 grams pressed into wax coated pills.
And this stuff is great. Some days I've forgotten to take it, but there's no side effects. I've never been so happy. And I've been through things that should have given me a heart attack or a stroke or a mental breakdown at least.
So let's go back to August last year. I got arrested. My girlfriend vanished. My mum thinks she's going to die so she's having an affair. Still haven't got a job. I get to look forward to court and probably prison (Fun! I'll be studying when there, as colleges around here have been fucking me over). But the only thing that's bothering me is my mum's being a dumb whore and shacking up with a weasel turd of a man that she knows is cheating on her.
I sleep easy at night. Despite all the bollocks I have to deal with, life hasn't been better for me. I'm fucking bored, but when all this shit is over I'm out of here, and I'm going to live somewhere I won't be persecuted for growing what I want. And I'll certainly keep eating this weed
Also, I'm poor. And it sucks. I've been making rum from marrows and sugar, and it's tasty and smooth, not gutrot at all. Most drugs cost too much, but not vitamin b6. I love this stuff. a pound gets me sixty tablets which equals 60 doses of fun, vivid, long lasting dreams. Still can't lucid dream but I've been trying.
I can't atribute it all to just one plant. I've been praying for help as well, and so far, it's been working. I have faith, I have a plan, and I have booze.
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rick0909
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How did you get over the brain zaps? I have been taking Effexor XR for five years and want to stop taking it so bad. I know Effexor is the devil of anti-depressants, or at least that's what I call it. I never took more than 75mg daily. The only smaller dose is 37.5mg which I am on now.
I can't seem to get over the brain zaps. It's hard to function at work and walking and driving is hard. I am an auto mechanic so I need to be attentive so I don't screw up somebodys car. If I stopped taking Effexor completely do you think St. Johns would help me ween off of it without getting brain zaps. My doctor doesn't seem to have a set plan for getting off of it. Which pisses me off considering he was the one who recommended/prescribed the shit to me.
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fazdazzle
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That's awesome, Visionary Tools
I've heard mixed reports on St. Johns Wort, so it's nice to see it working out for you. I don't have bad depression but I still sometimes have a difficult time navigating this crazy ass world, so a little extra juice would be just dandy.
Dude keep going on the lucids! I find lucid dreams give me so much motivation during my day, it's just amazing. It's on par with tripping - seriously. I've had lucids where I rip up grass from beneath me, stare at the blades in my hands and wonder how in the f*ck it's possibly a dream and not "real." It really puts me in a "It's all good," type mood where I see nothing in life negatively affecting me.
Do you take specifically vitamin B6 or do you take a B complex?
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two_rivers
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: rick0909]
#9678444 - 01/25/09 06:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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rick0909 said: How did you get over the brain zaps? I have been taking Effexor XR for five years and want to stop taking it so bad. I know Effexor is the devil of anti-depressants, or at least that's what I call it. I never took more than 75mg daily. The only smaller dose is 37.5mg which I am on now.
I can't seem to get over the brain zaps. It's hard to function at work and walking and driving is hard. I am an auto mechanic so I need to be attentive so I don't screw up somebodys car. If I stopped taking Effexor completely do you think St. Johns would help me ween off of it without getting brain zaps. My doctor doesn't seem to have a set plan for getting off of it. Which pisses me off considering he was the one who recommended/prescribed the shit to me.
effexor...
just thinking about my psychiatrist and effexor my blood boil.
nobody told me anything about those horrendous brain zaps before hand... i went through 3 solid weeks of 24/7 brain zaps everytime i blinked, moved my head, moved my body, etc.. all of that even after tapering off my dosage.
it's been over 2 years since i last took effexor and i STILL get brain zaps... usually in the mornings for whatever reason... i'll wake up and then BzzZZZZzT, BzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzt...
the rest of the day i'm fine..
but i'd say 4 out of 7 days after waking up from sleep i get a couple brain zaps in a row.
what the fuck did those things do to my brain!?
best of luck getting off of that stuff. i know you can do it and it will be worth it in the long run. i didn't know about st john's wort or anything back then and also my diet was pretty unhealthy.
so maybe it won't be as bad for you?
i hope so.
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stickygreennpurp
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: two_rivers]
#9678467 - 01/25/09 06:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahhh how would you describe brain zaps? Sounds scary.
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two_rivers
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it really is dude.. especially because the doctor made absolutely no mention of it beforehand when he prescribed the medication. When i told him what i was experiencing, he said, "effexor doesn't have any withdrawal symptoms."
...son of a bitch...
it wasn't until i looked online that i realized that everybody was experiencing the exact same thing.
but, it feels like a strong jolt of electricity through your brain along with a buzzing sound.. it's really uncomfortable to say the least. when you first stop taking effexor it's really strong and extremely frequent.
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stickygreennpurp
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: two_rivers]
#9678825 - 01/25/09 07:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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That really sucks man. Hope all is well and it ceases completely soon. It will.
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badchad
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You need to be careful.
Taking St. Johns Wort for depression only masks the underlying problems. Its a short-term band-aid. You need to find out whats really bothering you, then just tell yourself: "it doesn't bother me".
Remember, depression isn't real, just something made up so naturopaths can sell you tons of bottles of St. Johns Wort.
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: badchad]
#9682886 - 01/26/09 02:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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^^Nah.
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healthnut
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: Fruitboot]
#9684612 - 01/26/09 07:01 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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St. john definitely helped me out, but i was taking a product that contained that ingredient with dozens others so im not sure exactly what helped lol
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mojogoat
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I've been taking 5-htp tablets and i find that they really make a difference. Keep my mood up and keep me motivated!
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: mojogoat]
#9704420 - 01/30/09 07:21 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Excellent. Sounds like this Johns Wort stuff is worth having around. I've been on Ritalin for ADD for about 6 months now but its bad stuff. Its good for a nice 2 hour buzz but not much of a remedy for the old ADD. I'm gonna buy some different bits and pieces from the pharmacy and I'd say Johns Wort will be one of them.
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Visionary Tools
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Re: Thankyou St Johns Wort [Re: badchad]
#9704704 - 01/30/09 09:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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badchad said: You need to be careful.
Taking St. Johns Wort for depression only masks the underlying problems. Its a short-term band-aid. You need to find out whats really bothering you, then just tell yourself: "it doesn't bother me".
Remember, depression isn't real, just something made up so naturopaths can sell you tons of bottles of St. Johns Wort.
At £1.49 for 30 grams they can keep selling me it.
And wow, brain zaps for two years? Shit. That's fucking hardcore. I stopped taking john's wort for four days during my holiday, and I was fine. No withdrawal effects, no nothing.
The B6 I just take as it is. I get plenty of vitamins and minerals from all the plants I eat so just a little extra b6 puts me in happy dream land. 240MG of B6 was a bit too much though, that's the most I did, and I felt very twitchy and gibbery (but I like making silly noises, so it's all good. NIM NIM)
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