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Offline2Cents
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please help me shroomery
    #9532790 - 01/02/09 04:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I have made two attempts at growing shrooms but the jars do not germinate, I have used spores from a shitty internet site and then the second time someone gave me a spore print but both times no myc.
I was just trying to find what I am doing wrong but I dont know what it is.

I make my own brf but I just take it out of the bag and grind it up in a coffee blender, is this the thing to do?

Can I put my spore syringe in with my jars when I PC them for 90min?

Please shroomery any advice?


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532794 - 01/02/09 04:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

order from a shroomery sponsor?


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532805 - 01/02/09 04:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

NO do NOT PC the spore syringes, you'll kill them.

Also, the shitty internet site one is probably just water.

Lastly, wait at least 8-12 hours before knocking up the jars they need to cool after cooking. You may also want to get a good syringe (as posted above) and check your moisture content. Are you injecting against the glass, so you could see growth when it started?

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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532811 - 01/02/09 04:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Put your spores in a pressure cooker?  Wth?

The only thing to do is keep trying and following the tek EXACTLY.

If you are using BRF cakes you don't need to cook it for that long, 60 minutes should be fine.  Some people even do 45.  Maybe you are drying it out way to much?

But all in all I can't tell you what you are doing wrong because you didn't tell me exactly what you are doing.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: djmako7]
    #9532821 - 01/02/09 04:13 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

First off, order from ralphstersspores.com.

2nd, It sounds like you are pcing your spores... Are you PCing your spore syringe with spores in it?!?:ooo:
It should be sanitized when you recieve it, just wipe down with rubbing alcohol and flame the tip of the needle till red hot and it should be sterile... DONT PC SPORES!


*edit* seems this advice was posted as i was posting it... great minds think alike, lol... **


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532826 - 01/02/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Greetings from New Zealand,
I think your brf should be ok, when you say spore syringe do you mean a spore syringe with spores in it or an empty one?
If you pressure cook your syringe with spores in it they will not be viable anymore!
good luck:cool:
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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: skateordont]
    #9532830 - 01/02/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no Im not PCing spores I was asking if I could PC an empty syringe.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532844 - 01/02/09 04:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yes you can, but why would you need to.  Cycling boiling water is usually sufficient in providing a clean syringe.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532845 - 01/02/09 04:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Check your brown rice for fungicides. Yes you can PC empty syringes, just wrap them in foil.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532853 - 01/02/09 04:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

PC full syringes of water, that way you have sterile water to work with as well.

Normally to make a spore syringe, you PC a shot glass and full syringe of water. Put those and the print in a glove box, scrape some of the print with a flame sterilized instrument into the shot glass, squirt water in from syringe, and suck it back up.. repeat a few times to make sure you get it all.

1/8 to 1/6th of a print = a 10cc syringe worth of spores.

Edit: and yes, wrap everything in foil

Edited by Shroominit (01/02/09 04:20 PM)

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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: Shroominit]
    #9532942 - 01/02/09 04:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Fungicides should not make a difference, they are used to kep minor fungi and molds away, I don't believe simple fungicides stop the greater fungi (especially one as vigorous as p. cubensis) from colonizing the grain...

How wet/dry are your jars? How much are you innoculating with? are you innoculating between the grain and glass, or into the center of the grain?

Walk us through your procedure...

I think I'm gonna whip up a batch of jars now if I have any verm lying around :laugh:


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: 2Cents]
    #9532962 - 01/02/09 04:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I only give people advice who have developed pubic hair. Sorry.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9533025 - 01/02/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I might be high, but that was pretty funny.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9533038 - 01/02/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

German Kahuna said:
I only give people advice who have developed pubic hair. Sorry.


lol.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9533059 - 01/02/09 05:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Here follow these to a T!! I promise u'll be smooth sailin'.


http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek


http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Sporeprinting-Syringes


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: Shr00mZ]
    #9533064 - 01/02/09 05:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

You might think that this is just a funny comment by me, but seriously, this person has not contributed ONE - really, not ONE - relevant post so far. He is annoying the living crap out of me with his "LOLZ... ME TOO!" posts.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9533089 - 01/02/09 05:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah someone with 540 posts, u would think they would know how to do PFtek by now


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: BaKeRx561x420]
    #9533097 - 01/02/09 05:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

huh. No kidding.


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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: skateordont]
    #9533119 - 01/02/09 05:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well you guys have to remember some people skip the PF Tek and go straight to grains then try to do the PF Tek then after they fail at grains..

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Re: please help me shroomery [Re: Damion5050]
    #9533218 - 01/02/09 05:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Normally I don't like to see newbs get ripped on but at 540, ur no newb dude. Just make sure that you order from quality suppliers, many can be found here. Also remember to be as sterile as possible. If you have to print out a copy of the tek you're using, read it twice, every word, before you get started and keep them handy while you work so you don't have to second guess yourself: follow the tek, don't say "Well why the fuck do I do that? I'll do it this way!" because no one here worth their salt is into wasting time and money (which put together in the correct proportions = mushrooms) You're best bet is to just detail your steps and then post them here. I don't know, I certainly don't feel qualified to make my syringes yet and I've done a few yeast cultures for home brewing. Don't be afraid to fuck up man, we learn more from our mistakes than we do from our successes.


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