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Nervous about trying dried peruvian torch after a difficult experience
    #9290471 - 11/22/08 07:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Hi guys. I posted here a long time ago under another username, when this place was "sick" coloured, but I can't remember what it was. This post has ended up quite long, sorry about that. I've also posted it on another messageboard, just in case you see it around. I wanted to get a few different opinions on this :smile:

I've taken acid around 15-20 times years ago, normally getting to around level 3, with some level 4 trips. Never went for a level 5.

I've also had mushrooms a few times, maybe 4 or 5?

The thing is that the last time I did mushrooms I'd been given a gift of 3 different types of cubes (mexican, indian and cambodian iirc) as well as some truffles

All in all I ate around 15g wet of each type, but during the trip at some point I picked up the truffles and started eating them like a snack, without really thinking about it, and I must have eaten at least 15g more of them..

I got to a point where if I stopped focusing and laid back, the walls would split and I could see the universe before me. At certain times in my life I'm sure I could have coped with this, but on this particular evening I had a few friends round and I'd simply gotten carried away and eaten more mushrooms than I had originally intended to. I got quite panicked, but my friend held my hand (on request!) and I found that if I kept constantly looking around and changing my focus I could keep in contact with reality.

I eventually came down - I wouldn't say it was a bad trip, but I'd wandered into a heroic dose without really giving it the respect it deserved, so it really unnerved me. Ever since then, when visiting the netherlands with friends, I've never tried mushrooms again, I have an anxiety about it all after what happened. I know logically on a lower dose I'd be fine, and I could work my way back into it by giving it the respect it deserves. However, the trepidation I feel just holds me back. So it's been around 5 years now since I've had any psychedelics.

One thing I have noticed recently is the availability online of dried peruvian torch in the UK, where I live.

After reading lots of trip reports, it would seem that mescaline allows a much more lucid trip, and when I went to look at bad trips under mescaline on erowid, there were none to be found!

I'm now thinking about trying out mescaline. I think I'm going to have to go with the brewing method, and drink the delicious sounding bitter snot-slime, because it looks like the reagents required for a successful extraction seem to be overly complicated to get a hold of here (for an example, muriatic acid - you don't get pool shops in the UK!)

So what I'm wondering about is what dose I should go for? I've seen trip reports from people who seem to have had quite strong level 3-4 experiences on about 20-25g dried cactus, and other people who've only had threshold experiences on the same amount. I also read that the potency of PT can vary by up to about 100% ? So I don't want to take 20g and end up on a 40g trip, especially since mescaline lasts so long.

● Ideally, I would like around a level 2 trip really, just to ease me back into things. I'm a very well built guy and about 6'1"... Any suggestions?

● Also, I'll be in Scotland visiting family for around 9 days near christmas. If I was to try a lowish dose one day, how many days would you recommend waiting before I tried another dose, assuming everything went well?

● Finally, out of these two, which would you recommend? I didn't know if there was a difference between the dried samples and the chips. On this particular site only the dried samples have a trip report at the bottom.

http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Dried_San_Pedro__Trichocereus_Peruvianus.cfm?iProductID=2309

http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Dried_Peruvian_Torch__Chips.cfm?iProductID=5385

(If you know a better UK based supplier, please let me know)

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Re: Nervous about trying dried peruvian torch after a difficult experience [Re: Seeker_2008]
    #9290480 - 11/22/08 07:20 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

You'll be fine. 60 grams of mushrooms isn't really a very recreational dose anyway. You should trip out nice on mescaline.

Edit: oh and search deva ethno, pretty sure it will be nicer and cheaper.


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Re: Nervous about trying dried peruvian torch after a difficult experience [Re: Grapefruit]
    #9291627 - 11/22/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

thanks grapefruit.. anyone else? :smile:

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Re: Nervous about trying dried peruvian torch after a difficult experience [Re: Seeker_2008]
    #9298088 - 11/23/08 03:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no one? :frown:

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Re: Nervous about trying dried peruvian torch after a difficult experience [Re: Seeker_2008]
    #9298163 - 11/23/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

mescaline is very gentle. to me it would be hard to have a bad time on it.

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Re: Nervous about trying dried peruvian torch after a difficult experience [Re: Seeker_2008]
    #9298189 - 11/23/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

You should be fine man, like grapefruit said 60g's isn't really a recreational dose so if you can handle that alright 25g of dried cactus should be a breeze. I have found that 25g is a very subtle and mind opening experience, i'm sure you'll love the stuff.

I think that will get you to where you want to go, mescaline is pretty chilled out. A lot of people will tell you it's almost impossible to have a bad trip on, and it's pretty much true. I thought that until I decided it would be 5 times the fun if I dosed 125g dry, it wasn't. Well it sorta was, but i don't think i'll be doing it again anytime soon.

http://www.salvia-divinorum-supplies.co.uk/products.php?id=11

That place is pretty good for cactus chips. It's where i've got mine from in the past and they are decent quality, pretty good price too.

Edited by MindFood (11/23/08 03:42 PM)

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