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multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it
    #9264511 - 11/18/08 04:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

The biggest fruit i got so far was only about 3-4in long and the rest were small as hell like 1 in or less so its better just to fruit off of pf cake until i can figure out how to clone my biggest fruit.just wanted to let u know b-4 u waste ur time.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264516 - 11/18/08 04:26 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

actually alot of people have great success doing bulk with multispore i think it had more to do with you technique than genetics i could be wrong..

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: backintheriver]
    #9264522 - 11/18/08 04:30 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

it could be the fact i used 11 pf jars 2 spawn to 10 lbs of hpoo and had weak genetis tho.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264524 - 11/18/08 04:31 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

genetics

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264541 - 11/18/08 04:49 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

1 ms tub on straw,(about 2 feet, by 1 foot, by 4 inches) neglected, left on top of the entertainment center with a cfl left on during daylight hours can give up atleast a qp.

cambodian rox

in an attempt to be lazier, a cardboard box and garbage bag was used instead of a tub. some 6mil plastic draped over the top with a few holes punched with a steak knife makes a cheap cover. im all about doing this with NO effort.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264544 - 11/18/08 04:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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genetics




That is a possibility. Could have been very unlucky and had a lot of incampatible strains that couldnt join. Without use of the full substrate that could have produced small fruits.

Other reasons for small fruits is lack of moisture within the substrate.


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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9264547 - 11/18/08 04:57 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

my substrate is kinda overly wet so i put a heating pad under the fc the try to dry it out a little cause it seemed a little too wet.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264552 - 11/18/08 05:00 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Never heat your fruiting chamber directly. Which will cause moisture to codense out of the air robbing you of humidity. Your substrate probably dried out.


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Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
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Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9264554 - 11/18/08 05:01 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

pf cakes make "O.K" spawn but not when you're spawning them to 10lb's of hpoo.


I doubt the tub fully colonized, ten pounds of horse manure is to much to be spawning pf cakes to, they work better on much lighter bulk. I doubt the tub was fully colonized.

And by the way, even if the substrate was dryed out from direct heating that would mean your initial flush should have been massive from all the humidity in the air.


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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264555 - 11/18/08 05:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

unless theres puddles its not too wet. the myc will suck it all up.

monitor the heating pad tho, its not hard to overheat your stuff.

my house stays between 68 and 72, that seems to work good for incubating and fruiting, just takes a lil longer. but it saves electricity, and keeps you from having to monitor things.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9264556 - 11/18/08 05:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i didnt dry out yet i just turned the heating pad on about 3 hours ago should i turn it off?

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264559 - 11/18/08 05:03 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, never directly heat a fruiting chamber.


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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9264562 - 11/18/08 05:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i didnt dry out yet i just turned the heating pad on about 3 hours ago should i turn it off?

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264570 - 11/18/08 05:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

alright i turned it off and i'm just gonna let it run it's coarse how long do you think i can start fruiting it again? ABOUT A WEEK OR RIGHT AWAY?

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264579 - 11/18/08 05:15 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

alright i turned it off and i'm just gonna let it run it's coarse how long do you think i can start fruiting it again? ABOUT A WEEK OR RIGHT AWAY?

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264620 - 11/18/08 05:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

idk any details about your operation, but i just mix a quart of spawn to whatever amount of straw i have in the bottom, cover it, and forget it. check every day on the progress when you uncover and fan.

teks are way over complicated. just mix it all up, put 2-12 hrs of light on it, fan and mist it daily. itll do fine without temp changes. the less you pay attention to it the faster it grows, and the better of a prize you get, cause it didnt take any effort.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: r311ik]
    #9264628 - 11/18/08 06:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I JUST MIXED UP 11 PF CAKES TO THE HPOO AND MIXED IT UP REAL GOOD AND LET IT COLONIZE FOR ABOUT 2 WEEKS THEN PUT THE LIGHT AND AIR PUMP TO IT BUT WHEN I DUG IT UP IT WAS OVERLY WET ....I DUNNO I'LL SEE WUT HAPPENS TO IT BUT IT SHOULD BE FINE PLUS I ADDED VERM TO SOAK UP THE EXCESS WATER .PLUS I DRILLED SUM HOLES WITH A DRILL FOR FRESH AIR.IF IT FUCKES UP I GOT ALOT OF PF JARS IF IT DOES MESS UP.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264661 - 11/18/08 06:31 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

If it's wet its pooched...

Dug it up? if you could dig at it then its not fully colonized.


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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: HybridprX]
    #9264677 - 11/18/08 06:42 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

WELL I HAD TO TEAR IT APART
AND IT WASNT THAT WET.LIKE TEARING APART A PF CAKE.

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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
    #9264898 - 11/18/08 08:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

as veda said mixing alot of jars togather as spawn my not be a good idea as the different dominant substrains in each jar may not be compatable, which will result in poor fruiting. Also its best to make more smaller tubs or trays just incase you get a contam, you can move that away from the rest of the grow. not having all the eggs in one baskett is a good thing. i got lucky on my first multispore bulk. i had a pinset almost full canopy. a few bare spots but great for multispore.


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