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initiatethehello
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amanita muscaria
#9238404 - 11/13/08 04:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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lately, i've become really interested in this mushroom since it's vary easy to obtain legally. but i want to hear more from those who have personally done it? Is it very unpleasant? What's it like? Yes, I've looked at erowid, but want more from you all.
What about toxicity, I've heard some people have died from amanita muscaria, would that occur with the ones i could buy from iamshaman?
What about smoking it?
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TheAxis
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ive heard mixed reports on smoking it, id personally just eat it, you dont need to worry bout dying, just convert the ibotenic acid to muscimol via heat
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MisterMuscaria
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I love the stuff. It gives you cool dreams too.
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Cognitive_Shift
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It actually doesn't taste all that bad
I have only had it in conjunction with cubensis tho, it was a total mindfuck. It makes you tired and sleepy, the come up so so intense all i could do is lay there going through thought loops of utter insanity. I remember laying there and wanting to die. But after that part it was all smooth sailing from there.
BTW the amanita i ate were from iamshaman, the bag says "not for human consumption" but they already come pre heated to make you crazy
Don't take this lightly, delierients make you mad as a hatter.
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Edited by Cognitive_Shift (11/13/08 04:34 PM)
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initiatethehello
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I'm actually thinking ordering on a couple ounces, maybe i can make some profit by selling 5g doses around.
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Cognitive_Shift
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lol i hate 14 grams with 5 gram cubensis (lemon tek)
If your buyers aren't psychonauts then i think your in the clear.
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MisterMuscaria
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I also ate 14 grams, but with only 2 grams of psilos.
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acidbase
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I've smoked the skins of them. That did something. Brewing them did nothing.
From what I have read they are really sensitive to the environment and their composition changes quickly so if you don't harvest them at the right time they are not very potent, a bit like weed I guess.
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deCypher
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Very enjoyable, very mystical, not a party psychedelic.
Take before sleep for best results.
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NlightNd1
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Here's a quote from another post of mine: "When I made tea out of 30 grams, I left my body and entered a gold dimension with a gold sphere hovering in the air. This dimension was the only thing I could perceive except for my friend's heads which were seemingly floating around this golden room. The only bad thing about ingesting this many amanitas is that you will sweat to the point that your clothes are soaked, your muscles will be severely twitching, and you won't be able to feel your body at all. I think the craziest part of the trip was the manner in which I entered the dimension and left the dimension. I slowly regrew my body coming out of it and the room slowly came back into my field of vision. Another thing is, these things knock you out. It is very difficult to stay awake on a high dose."
The trip is not fun at all but it is an eye-opening experience. At a low to moderate dose these mushrooms make you delirious and tired. They give you visuals similar to those of LSD (energy flowing over visual field, objects are out of proportion). They even make you feel a little bit drunk or something similar. At higher doses, like 30 grams or more, you will experience these effects very quickly. The next thing you will experience is a sensation almost like someone is holding you off the ground from the top of your cranium. Almost like you're soul is being pulled out of your body through the top of your head. It will feel like you are floating or flying (possibly where the term fly came from in fly agaric). Then you're field of vision will start to get fuzzy (like your brain is tuning into another dimension). This is the point where you cannot feel your body at all and you can barely see your surroundings. You will probably fall into a coma-like state of sleep. If you wake up from this sleep you will very likely find yourself in the golden dimension I described above. This is merely my subjective experience. I am not guaranteeing other people will have this same experience, although I have read about people having identical experiences. I do not in any way recommend taking this high of a dose or higher. It can be dangerous because some unconverted toxins will remain in the mushrooms. If you plan on taking a high dose, acclimate yourself to a. muscaria with low doses. It actually took me 4 attempts to reach this golden dimension. Four nights in a row I passed out before I hit my peak. Like I said it is not a fun or "cool" experience.
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I find it enjoyable, just be sure to heat/cook them like the other posters said. Also, ingesting w/ some food tends to curb the nausea for me.
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Entropymancer
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First off, there are no confirmed deaths by amanita muscaria overdose in the last 100 years. Amanita muscarias do not contain the hepatoxins present in deadly amanitas (death caps, destroying angels).
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initiatethehello said: I'm actually thinking ordering on a couple ounces, maybe i can make some profit by selling 5g doses around.
I really wouldn't recommed that. For one thing, a person would have to buy 3-5 of those "doses" at minimum to feel anything. On top of that, they're not really psychedelic (though they can be interesting). And if your customers don't know anything about them, it seems a little irresponsible to sell to them; if they do know anything about them, they know that they can buy them online (though the online prices really seem like a rip-off to me).
The experience is characterized by a lot of nausea and shivering, generally, and is the effects are largely stuporous.
Here's a description of the effects from someone who has used them at tripping dosages more than I have; I find the description to be consistent with my couple experiences
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After 30min a number of things all start to happen at once. Non of them are particularly pleasant. I generally start to feel nauseous. Some times I will be unable to keep it down but even after heaving the feelings of nausea don't pass. I also become quite drunk. It is not a nice, light headed, euphoric, merry drunk. Its more like drinking heavily on top of a large hangover drunk. I get dizzy even when lying down. My head is heavy, my mind is wooley and my speach is slurred.
60min+ I will be feeling very disorientated within my mind and body. I'll be shivering and sweating. I feel there is something majorley wrong with me but I am unable to work out what it is. I crawl under the duvet but find no comfort. I lurch out for cooler fresh air but return to my duvet. I have panic attacks, suddenly I may believe my heart has stopped. I desperatley start feeling for a pulse and banging my chest to give a self administered cardiac massage. I will want an ambulance but cant get the telephone to work. There will be CEVs at this point but I am to uncomfortable and nervous to take much notice of them.
120mins+ The anxiety attacks are subsiding. I still feel drunk or drugged but I am starting to regain my composier, and am glad I didn't get the ambulance. I am now able to take more notice of the CEVs. They are not particularly exciting. If DMT is 10, LSD 6, Psylocybin 4, Amanita Muscari is 1-2. They do have their own feel however, unlike anything else. Generally I see a swirling kalidescope, the colours are dark soft and muted. Without any warning pictures suddenly appear. They are a very photographic like. Crisp sharp and real looking. But unlike the fantastic and colour saturated imagery of DMT, they are mute and somber. I will see the mundane imagery of my life. A row of shops in the rain... A girl lighting a cigarette at the bus stop... Some men digging a hole in the road... Some dirty washing in the sink. It is totally random and also one dimensional. I can not wander into the scene or explore it. All I can do is watch and hope something interesting happens. It never does.
This state of mind lasts for about 3-4 hours. I may slumber, its never real sleep but its not quite awake. People tell me I snore but I am not in any kind of deep sleep. Eventually, I do sleep. I wake the next day, alert and fresh, there is never any residual affects, I am back to base.
That's with fresh cooked mushrooms though, dried ones tend to be a lot less pleasant.
Also, dried ones taste terrible, IME. Like dried ballsweat mixed with beef boullion. Fresh ones, on the other hand. taste absolutely amazing when cooked. (It's the right season for them too, at least where I'm at, I picked up three caps on my way home from the grocery store a couple hours ago)
The way I'd recommend using A muscaria is fresh, in much smaller dosages, as a cooking ingredient and health supplement. See warriorsoul's journal entry on A muscaria for details. Also, I made a post at the DMT-Nexus talking about using them in cooking, and for the milder and quite pleasant effects of lower dosages.
Lately I've been adding a tablespoon or two of the mushroom to practically everything I cook, and am really enjoying the mushroom (both for flavor and for the energy boost) at this level. I've pickled a couple jars so I can continue enjoying it after the season is past.
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kechlesurf
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I just did a 17 page paper of the amanita genre and a couple of pages of the paper was on the amanita muscaria. From what i have read, there have been deaths that have been reported with it have been people already in poor health (such as old age or stuff like that. But the most poisonous mushrooms are associated with this genre such as amanita phalloides (death cap) and the amanita virosa (destroying angel). Worse that will happen to a healthy person would be vomiting and nausea
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initiatethehello
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Re: amanita muscaria [Re: kechlesurf]
#9240299 - 11/13/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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the one's from iamshaman are already dried, does this mean i still have to heat them up?
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Mr. Cordoza
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I smoked amanita muscaria, now my pipe always smells like shit.
Edited by Mr. Cordoza (11/13/08 08:27 PM)
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MisterMuscaria
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I wish amanitas were tradeable on this site...I understand why they arent...but I still wish they were.
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