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The Concept of Psychology
    #9229155 - 11/12/08 09:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Control from within.

Don't let control from without.

When you have come to a place of lost minds, do you just ponder on the fact of how did i get here first, or contemplate the fact that the only way out is to answer.

I notice that many of joos will not even take someone ideas into consideration for you have not learned to learn from other but to keep what was taught and never let them know exactly what it is you learned.

I'd say basically out of fear of being changed or fear of losing control.

I'll add more after someone comments my "concept" of "psychology"...

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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229180 - 11/12/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'll add more after someone comments my "concept" of "psychology"...



First I'd have to know what you are talking about.:confused:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Icelander]
    #9229194 - 11/12/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

It's a simple step of translation.

I'm talking about the psychology of one's mind and how one thinks it works.

I mean you can always adjust yourself with answers or questions. But I was thinking that one can always question, but one who can make answers may be better off.

What do you think?

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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229204 - 11/12/08 09:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I still don't follow you. What do you mean by "making answers"?


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229208 - 11/12/08 09:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

If you realized about one's communication techniques, you'd "see".

Like I said you basically responded with a question for sake of entertaining one's mind when one does not understand.

Those who can answer, take into consideration that the information one is recieving is translatable.

So excluding the fact that you can always question when one doesn't understand, or answer when one is completely sure of what one is talking about.

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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229213 - 11/12/08 09:21 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I also think that you maybe have a set of semantics of language, when in fact on my side you read, "see", have a vision of what it is and then you respond.

So maybe you are more of a word person and use the construct of my post as some sort of word, "phrase" construct also.

IDK.. lmao.

That is the difference between us, some "question" while other's "answer".

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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229220 - 11/12/08 09:22 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I give up dude. You are way to brilliant for me.:shrug:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229222 - 11/12/08 09:23 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Droz said:
Control from within.

Don't let control from without.

When you have come to a place of lost minds, do you just ponder on the fact of how did i get here first, or contemplate the fact that the only way out is to answer.

I notice that many of joos will not even take someone ideas into consideration for you have not learned to learn from other but to keep what was taught and never let them know exactly what it is you learned.

I'd say basically out of fear of being changed or fear of losing control.

I'll add more after someone comments my "concept" of "psychology"...

Peace,
Droz




Discussion of ideas is always interesting in this manner.  Does one fight to preserve one's own and corrupt others with them, or does one keep a completely open mind and let other ideas infiltrate our own?

The first has the downside of being seen as dogmatic; but the second has the downside of being seen as gullible.  One must maintain an original personality, and always be skeptical, but at the same time too much tension in favor of originality can burden a conversation and make progress impossible.

Quite the dilemma indeed.


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: deCypher]
    #9229231 - 11/12/08 09:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

It's not a dilemma if you don't understand it.:monkeydance:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Icelander]
    #9229240 - 11/12/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Apparently intelligent people are always the ones who are most easily fooled by magic tricks, according to some accounts by professional magicians.  It's the ordinary folk who are more able to see through sleight-of-hand deception.


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: deCypher]
    #9229252 - 11/12/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Are you calling me intelligent?:D Wow! it's time to rate you I guess.:heart:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Icelander]
    #9229280 - 11/12/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

"Does one fight to preserve one's own and corrupt others with them, or does one keep a completely open mind and let other ideas infiltrate our own?" - deChyper

This was something like what I was trying to get at. I see you understood.

It is almost somewhat child psychology for we are young and growing at a young age and do not always understand "how" or "why" we communicate this way. But also one then begins to learn to translate and intelligence sets in, some get this at a younger age, while it takes others longer to get to this "place".

On the idea of original personality,

I can't tell on others of what this is, but for myself I am just beginning to learn to communicate in such styles as Philosophy. I'd say the better one has to translate the better one gets at communicating in this style.

Original is self explainatory, while other's think they have it do to an egoic situation, or while other's step down from it to atleast try to communicate with others and have the ability to change from person to person.

Did you get all that? o.o

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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229298 - 11/12/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Is it better to be closeminded and rigid in one's belief system, never letting a stray idea slip out or a new one in, or to be so openminded that one believes everything that one is told?


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229300 - 11/12/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Trust?
Mood: Horny; Agenda: suspicious
Issue: Control.
Trust = false
Trading control and getting What?


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: deCypher]
    #9229317 - 11/12/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I guess that could be under interpretation to the fact of practical communication techniques. In my opinion i'd say that i'm open-minded to the fact that i try to relate and be friendly with others.

I change.

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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229318 - 11/12/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well I got that all along. I just couldn't believe you were actually suggesting one might ever be able to have a completely open mind. :shrug: THAT'S INSANE! :whoa:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Icelander]
    #9229322 - 11/12/08 09:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Don't be too open minded or your brain'll fall out. :nono:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: deCypher]
    #9229328 - 11/12/08 09:45 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Don't worry about me. I'm not very open minded. I have to use a pry bar.


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Icelander]
    #9229332 - 11/12/08 09:46 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Good to hear ya got standards.  :thumbup:


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Re: The Concept of Psychology [Re: Droz]
    #9229344 - 11/12/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Well Recondicum, those who use words to get some woman in bed, well is understandable, for when a woman is teased or listens to the rythym of one's words can be laid easily. LMFAO!

The thought of "Trust", "control" or more on a lines of one's personality.

Control and Trust would be all apart of how one determines how one thinks. The use of the thought of control will lead to manipulation and lack of trust.

While trust will lead to friendships and a family.

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