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 Juke Adro
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 No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc 
#9201794 - 11/07/08 12:29 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have had success with reishi doing grain to fresh bags of wood/mix un pc'd 
So my self and a friend who I will blame if things go wrong haha you know who you are, well we came to the conclusion that success is easy if you can beat the bugs, this is what happened I got my shredded F17 (hardwood) added some coffee gypsum and peat for no reason, some verm, dash of lime and some tap water, let soak for a hour the drained and squeezed excess water out, filled 5 bags nicely grabbed my 2lts king spawn and poured equal amounts among the 5 bags, folded the bags over shook and mixed then placed on the shelf This was all done in a garage.
Now I wait and hope they don't contaminate, this is not recommended but I know it works well if your culture is a super fast runner and long as you don't drop your bulk sub on the floor lol and your culture is amazing you should be fine....... Note culture must be super fast or your pushing shit up hill
I have some pics which are not the best but here enjoy
I might as well keep updating this as it grows so keep your eye on it
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 Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9201908 - 11/07/08 12:52 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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you may get some success, but on the most part your grow will contaminate like that. Even outdoor beds that don't use sterilized substrate have to be spawned at at least 1/4 ratio to succeed.
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
#9201954 - 11/07/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Like I said you need a amazing culture that can grow super fast other wise it wont work, the culture I have was from a great friend and will run through that sub in a few days 5 I guess
Oh yeah it may seem like I don't know what I'm doing haha but I assure you I'm familiar with it
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9201983 - 11/07/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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the fastest culture you could use is pleurotus ostreatus, and even it will not have a good enough success rate to make it worth while.
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
#9202000 - 11/07/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well watch and see.
The Reishi I done like this last time I made 10 jars and about 10 bags not one was contaminated and I use stuff all spawn
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9202025 - 11/07/08 01:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it's the strain I'm using (reishi- I'm sure we have the same source), then I'd believe it. That strain runs so fast it's absolutely incredible.
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: MycoAu]
#9202046 - 11/07/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that is the same strain as your Reishi you cant let it stay on the grain to fully colonise otherwise it gets so thick you cant even break the grain up with a hammer hahahahah
For fun I used it to clean a contaminated tub, it colonised everything contams and all and still fruited hahahaha
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9202198 - 11/07/08 01:46 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only contamination you need to worry about with that reishi is bacteria. Any moulds it should easily overrun, but bacteria (in large enough quantity) can hold it at bay.
Using more lime is the substrate mix can help prevent moulds getting a hold as well, by keeping the pH too high for them.
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: wisp]
#9202313 - 11/07/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah lime is friend
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9218606 - 11/10/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Juke is that the "Disgusting tek" you speak of? If so I heard that there are a few using no PC for grain and having success!;) Well done and keep it updated
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: ArtVandaley]
#9218785 - 11/10/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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No its not the disgusting tek, its actually the just straight no steam no pasteurising no heat no nothing just knock it up its colonising amazingly fast and only a few days off being fully colonised.
The "disgusting tek" you speak of I have had success with and just used it again and worked like a charm
just so others know the disgusting tek is.....
soak wheat grain or rye grain (wbs will not work) for at least 24 to 36 hours then strain, simmer for 15/20 minutes drain and load into jars then boil or steam for 2 hours (adding salt to the water is a + I have also noticed it works better if you allow jars after the simmer to sit over night before boil/steaming.
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9230010 - 11/12/08 11:59 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Watching forward how it will turn out 
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: dstark]
#9241958 - 11/14/08 12:55 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are just about done I'm just giving them a few more days to take on the white block look i'll slam up some pics tomorrow night
And prove to Buckeye Oysters that success rate can be 100% and all that's needed is a great isolate
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9242628 - 11/14/08 05:27 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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How much lime did you add? That may have something to do with your success. I've been able to do this sucessfully with king stropharia, and oysters, (and pioppino if I use a relatively high spawn to bulk ratio) but my eryngii attempt failed. I'm about to fruit that pioppino block. It's completely white, and the first brownish patch appeared near the top and it's quickly expanding. That seems to be a precursor to pinning. I'll be sure to post pics if and when that happens.
One of the Rush Wayne manuals he sells describes using completely untreated substrates. He claims that growing a species on an untreated substrate is possible if sawdust from a tree the species naturally associates with is used, and an optimal growing environment for that species is maintained.
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Paresthesia]
#9242649 - 11/14/08 05:40 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used about 3 handfuls I did not use any lime for the reishi tho cause its just too fast and nothing can stop it not even trich.
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9242756 - 11/14/08 06:41 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bacteria can, as it allways does with my grows :S :/
I mostly get this wet spot bacteria...
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: dstark]
#9242766 - 11/14/08 06:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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You may just be unlucky 
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 Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Juke Adro]
#9243652 - 11/14/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Luck? Luck?! Are we that helpless in the face of blind chance? Is there nothing we can do to hold back the tide of bacterial contamination?! Say it aint so!
I mean, wouldn't using cleaner sanitary practices help? 
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Juke Adro
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Re: No Pc'ing Bulk for fast growing myc [Re: Paresthesia]
#9243666 - 11/14/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL I think you guys over their just have more bugs in ya water and air 
Its clean as a whistle here
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