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rchtyp
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Datura
#9181628 - 11/04/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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How dangerous is it? Ive read more than a few stories about people who took it and are tripping forever. Oh, and cant forget the scientific study I read about mice brain damage and weight changes of brain sections on different doses.
This is my take on it right now: If you do too much you can cause brain damage in the part of your brain that keeps you "sane" (what is sane anyway, right? ).
I dont think Ill do it unless the positives outweigh the negatives, and right now they arent coming close .
For the people that have done it: Is it worth it? Why or why not?
- rch
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Mastamike1118
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Re: Datura [Re: rchtyp]
#9181646 - 11/04/08 09:08 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i dont no anyone who has taken it
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cpw1971
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Re: Datura [Re: rchtyp]
#9181660 - 11/04/08 09:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Theres a fine line between tripping and death with Datura. Every year I hear about some kids dying on it. Not good Not to mention its more of a delerium than tripping and you don't realize it.
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Brainiac
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Re: Datura [Re: cpw1971]
#9181684 - 11/04/08 09:21 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. You can die 2. You will trip so hard live multiple lives, die in those multiple lives, then die in real life. 3.You, or no one else is a shaman. Quit foolin youself. 4.It's not a contest of dick size. (Breast size for you woman) 5.Tropanes...tro-pains..get it? 6.It was once an idea for chemical warfare. 7.It's one of mother nature's cruelest jokes. 8.An anangram of Datura: U A Tard 9.It can make you retarded. 10.If you use Datura, you are probably retarded. 11.You are not a voodoo priest.You can't make zombies. 12. It will make you a zombie. In jail 13. It's probably the drug responsible for giving other psychedlics a bad name. 14. See Erowid.org, then don't do it. 15. There's better drugs. 16. There's waaay better drugs. 17. People don't like to worry to much. 18. We are sick of Datura threads here, so don't do it. 19. You are not a witch, or a wiccan using magic. See Wikipedia. 20. This website provides you with resources to grow better shit than Datura. 21. It doesn't make you hardcore, because you were never hardcore to begin with. 22. Read other lists, don't do it. 23. Use the search engine, and relfect on the wisdom gained about Datura. 24. Datura is as bad as heroin. That's a rumour I might be willing to start. 25. The over all feeling I get on the shroomery is DON'T DO DATURA.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7167737#7167737
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ethnoguy
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I agree with Brainiac, but they are nice to grow.
EG
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rchtyp
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Thank you for the input so far everyone.
Brainiac: I don't consider myself a shaman, wizard, witch, wiccain, voodoo priest, pink hulabaloo, junkie, or god. Simply a man looking for a higher level of consciousness. I also believe that every substance is different, and each has their own new light.
My last two lines were the main point of this thread:
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For the people that have done it: Is it worth it? Why or why not?
I don't think that researching to find out if you want to try a potentially deadly substance makes you a retard, more like a safe idiot.
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UncleMike
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Re: Datura [Re: rchtyp]
#9181995 - 11/04/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I took a handful of jimsonweed seeds one time and the experience is not one i like to remember. there were swirling patterns everywhere and I felt horrible. when i had to piss my whole body heated up. felt like i had eaten rat poisonor something and i thought that iwas going to die...i would not recommend anyone doing it
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arago
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Go to Erowid and read the trip reports. They are fascinating and really funny in a sordid, macabre way. Most of the participants end up in the hospital, fighting against the restraints; most leaving the hospital with $30,000 bills. I've done it, and I ended up in the hospital. The trips go on for days. Sometimes people are found dead in ponds. A lot of people are arrested for doing weird shit - And the funniest line I can recall is when a friend visited his buddy, still tripping in the hospital and asked him how it was going, - said: "I really have to go to the bathroom, but I can't. If I take my eye off that fairy over there, he'll push me off the building."
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ethnoguy
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Re: Datura [Re: arago]
#9182965 - 11/04/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Carlos Castaneda's teacher and mentor Don Juan Matus called jimsonweed "the devil's weed". He hated it, and he was a shaman.
I like the story of the guy who ate some seeds, and decided to take a shower. He got naked, turned the water on, and then proceeded to go into the living room and start dusting furniture. When his mom asked him what he was doing, he replied "trying to take a shower!" There are lots of funny and sad stories on erowid.org regarding datura use.
Often participants don't even realize they are tripping. While datura is fascinating to study, it's a really bad idea to consume it unless you know wtf you are doing and will have a sitter for 2-3 days. And never consume any seeds that have been treated with GA-3.
EG
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Brainiac
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It grows wild around where I'm at.It looks like a mean plant...
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Re: Datura [Re: arago]
#9183026 - 11/04/08 02:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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it makes your muscles feel twitchy and restless (to the point of being painful) It makes you very dehydrated, water doesn't help. It throws your heart rate up to sometimes over 200bpm. It makes you feel like you have to piss REAL bad, but nothing comes out. It gives you severe vertigo. (side-effect of the dehydration) You can't focus your eyes for days. You can't remember things like your name, where you live, what a house is, how to put syllables in the right order or how many of each to use in a word. You cant hold a thought. You will remember practically nothing of the experience afterwards. Both near and distant memories will be narrowed down to the most basic and habitual of behaviors, like old friends and smoking. you'll be talking to old friends, and smoking imaginary cigarettes. as your current thinking will be replaced by simple-memory based hallucinations playing out like a vague dream. You will take it for granted as reality. then theres bugs and spiders. Some people see them everywhere.
you'll destroy things and cause messes wherever you go. tearing up furniture, pulling down drapes, emptying the contents of fridges and pantries into toilets, beds, fishtanks, toasters, shoes, whatever exists.
weather through a door or a window, you'll probably find your way out of your dwelling (releasing whatever pets you keep) and wander off in a random (usually downhill) direction, confusing woodland and roadway alike. The ground itself will seem holographic, and images of terrifying imaginings can appear in its abysmal depth that can turn you into a frightened maniac.
Balance and coordination can be lost even further, you can be reduced to crawling through a ditch.
people who encounter you will be extremely alarmed.
you'll end up strapped down to a gurney, with tubes in your throat and dick,
on the bright side, its all pretty trippy.
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Mitchnast
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oh yeah, you'll probably shit and piss yourself and be naked and bloodied through most of this.
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Brainiac
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Sounds like fun....
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ethnoguy
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It grows wild here too. More on the east side of the state, but I have seen it several times myself in the wild. I have some seeds from a datura cv. Its a dwarf plant. I can't wait to put that in the yard.
Way to put things in perspective Mitch
EG
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Re: Datura *DELETED* [Re: ethnoguy]
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Brainiac
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Its kind of odd. We get alot of food from that family of plants...
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ethnoguy
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Plants of the Gods says its one of the most highly evolved plants. Why is that?
EG
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Prof. Astro
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I've taken datura and DPH (chemical equivalent), let me say I don't recommend it at all. Spending the night talking to people who are not there is a bit odd. In any case I do on occasion think about using it, but that's just for personal reference and in very, very low dosages.
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jds
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I did DPH a lot of times, but not datura (yet?). I don't know about others but I "enjoy" a little delirium once in a while (ie: 600-700mg of DPH was perfect for me). Not my favorite drug but not the worse. I don't recommended it to other people, since I'm probably the only one who can enjoy this drug .
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rchtyp
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Glad I got to hear everyone's opinions, looks like I won't be using it. I have a bunch of psychoactive seeds ready to plant in my garden when it gets warmer, 3 different datura strains. .
Thanks again for the input.
- rch
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