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DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT
    #9148092 - 10/28/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Alright guys, over the past few months I've been experimenting with psychedelics for the first time ever in my life.  It was chance that I ate shrooms, for some reason tripping has never appealed to me but I went far beyond threshold tripping not long ago and it has done nothing but enthrall me.  My life has been so dynamic, and my own views and beliefs have changed so much as the years have passed.  I feel it's time to experiment and so I've had my eye on DMT for quite some time.

My question...  I can order a gram of 5-MeO-DMT for not too much cash but DMT extraction also seems very simple.  Would you recommend the natural method and just extracting or buying the chemicals?  What are the differences in the substances if any of you have tried both?

The testimonies are just too wonderful to ignore, so this is something I want to do in life... Prying open my third eye. :wink:


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
    #9148132 - 10/28/08 12:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

havnt done 5-meo but regular dmt is amazing and yyou shoiuld get some NN-DMT for sure


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
    #9148217 - 10/28/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

P0wdered DMT and 5meoDMT are available however, overdoses can cause fatalities.  If you get a gram of 5meODMT the active dose starts at under 10mg and if you are smoking the stuff it will hit you really quick.  It puts the psychonaut into a trance state (duh right?) and overdoses (90-250mg) have been known to cause the physical body to quit breathing on it's own.  So eyeballing a dose the size of a grain of salt can be difficult and the powder may be more or less dense than other powders you may be familiar with already so it could be nearly impossible to get accurate doses without an expensive scale with .0001 resolution. 

all I'm saying is you've got to be really careful or your enthralling experience could end in pure tragedy-


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: travelleler]
    #9148264 - 10/28/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Good advice for sure travelleler.  I am quite familiar with dosing and do own a very expensive and accurate scale. 

I'm leaning more towards extracting DMT just because I would like to try the actual substance and not something similar or the analog of another compound.


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: travelleler]
    #9148419 - 10/28/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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P0wdered DMT and 5meoDMT are available however, overdoses can cause fatalities.  If you get a gram of 5meODMT the active dose starts at under 10mg and if you are smoking the stuff it will hit you really quick.  It puts the psychonaut into a trance state (duh right?) and overdoses (90-250mg) have been known to cause the physical body to quit breathing on it's own.  So eyeballing a dose the size of a grain of salt can be difficult and the powder may be more or less dense than other powders you may be familiar with already so it could be nearly impossible to get accurate doses without an expensive scale with .0001 resolution. 

all I'm saying is you've got to be really careful or your enthralling experience could end in pure tragedy-




Yes, except... 10mg is much larger than a grain of salt.

You should weigh your doses and all, but you quite frankly are not going to mistake 90mg for 10mg.


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: Phonerothyme]
    #9148621 - 10/28/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

good point phonerothyme-

it would be hard to mistake 100mg for 10mg but if someone hadn't a clue and just said "that looks like enough" could be dangerous.  Plus different powders have different densities meaning that a 10mg of one may look different than another 10mg of something else-- also depending on how much solid material there is and how 'powdered' it is.  Guess I should have said that to begin with

5htsynaptrip, good you own scale!  that makes it way easy to do it right!  5meO-DMT does actually occur in nature in various phalaris grasses, if you study DMT you probably already know that.

Have fun!:goodluck:


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: travelleler]
    #9148630 - 10/28/08 02:42 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Don't forget bufo toads!

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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: Innoculus]
    #9148722 - 10/28/08 02:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that it would be alright to eyeball a little bit of 5-meo-dmt...


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: the free thinker]
    #9149087 - 10/28/08 03:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

OK... I ordered 60 grams of Mimosa hostilis. 

Go Go DMT extraction!  :rail2:


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
    #9149421 - 10/28/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

why fight it i love em both and mix em


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
    #9149459 - 10/28/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you cant kill yourself on dmt...the ld50 is WAAAAY more than you could EVER ingest


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: Jorkest]
    #9149472 - 10/28/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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you cant kill yourself on dmt...the ld50 is WAAAAY more than you could EVER ingest


Not true?


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
    #9149507 - 10/28/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

but shit im sure you can die from it like when people collapse from it


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: thedudenj]
    #9149588 - 10/28/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Large doses of DMT can cause you to stop breathing.


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
    #9149695 - 10/28/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

5-meo-DMT is alright, but n,n is so much better.


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: skin_]
    #9149738 - 10/28/08 05:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

DMT will ravage your mind, can't wait to here your trip report.  Even tho a language to describe the experience doesn't exist.


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9150047 - 10/28/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

what is the trip difference?


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: skin_]
    #9150051 - 10/28/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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5-meo-DMT is alright, but n,n is so much better.




Cool... that was what I figured.  I don't know... the RC company was in China so I was skeptical about quality.  At least with Mimosa extraction I know no synthetic shit will be fucking me up.  The extraction .pdf on here seems identical to what I've already read so I'll be using the HCL NaOH and naptha method.  Seems easy enough.  Can't fuckin wait to rip this stuff.


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
    #9150124 - 10/28/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

People should be ordering more 2C-E from those sites, and extracting more DMT from mimosa.

For the luv of all that's good. DMT!


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Re: DMT vs 5-MeO-DMT [Re: DreamSignals]
    #9150298 - 10/28/08 07:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So the yield from mimosa is fairly good?


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