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Prepinning in fruiting conditions?
    #914651 - 09/28/02 10:55 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I have read the faq numerous times, but one point is still very unclear. SWIM just cased and has placed the casing tray into his rubbermade terrarium with perlite and a temp of 78 degrees. In another forum someone posted

>>The only thing I would advice is for the casing not to be in the fruiting chamber. >>The temps should be higher, say mid 80's. Wait until the casing is fully, or nearly >>full colonising, then put it in fruiting conditions.

If the casing is NOT in the fruiting chamber, how can a 95% humidity be maintained!?

Should SWIM just put his casing tray into inncubation room of 83.5 degrees and simply continue to mist the walls?

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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: f8L]
    #914708 - 09/28/02 11:40 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

The reason I said this is because you were unclear as too how much your casing layer was colonised, and I can't remember what, but something you said lead me to believe that it wasn't near being read to be in fruiting conditions. IF your casing is 100% colonised, then go for it and put it in the terrarium, but if not, you could be opening the door for contams


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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: Skikid16]
    #915542 - 09/28/02 06:30 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

No idea what you just said.

I went ahead and put my rubbermade tub with casing into another tub filled with water and a fish tank heater which will keep the temp around 83.5 degrees for prepinning-- I will continue to mist to keep the humidity up until I see some colonization of the casing layer... sound about right?

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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: f8L]
    #915550 - 09/28/02 06:34 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

No, after you have cased, you should cover the casing with aluminum foil or seran wrap, and allow the mycelium to colonise the casing layer, should take a week or so. If you mist it before the casing layer is colonised then you may get contams.


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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: Skikid16]
    #915650 - 09/28/02 07:39 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

How the heck am I supposed to keep the humidity at 90% for the prepinning stage if im not misting!? (this has been my major question all along that has remained unanswered..) thx for replying so quickly

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[Re: f8L]
    #915840 - 09/28/02 09:02 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: f8L]
    #915855 - 09/28/02 09:09 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Humidity doesn't need to be at 90% during incubation, or as you call it "prepinning". The main concern in incubation is temp which should be in the mid 80's. Then after the casing is colonised, you induce pinning by lowering temp (mid 70's), introducing light, increasing humidity, and air exchange (fanning).


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[Re: Skikid16]
    #915864 - 09/28/02 09:14 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)


Edited by matts (09/28/02 09:15 PM)

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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: f8L]
    #915988 - 09/28/02 10:10 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Apologies if this is redundant:

The casing layer should be somewhat moist to begin with, when covered it will usually maintain a internal humidity of ~90%. There is no need to put it in the fruiting chamber. After the mycelial network has established itself in the casing layer and is just starting to peak through (according to Stamets "when the mycelium is clearly established in the valleys of the casing surface"), you can move the casing to the fruiting chamber (ie drop the temperature, introduce fresh air and light). Cold shocking isn't a bad idea either. Once pinheads are the size of peas, lower the humidity and wait for fruits...

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Re: Prepinning in fruiting conditions? [Re: bowling-name]
    #916028 - 09/28/02 10:38 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, thanks for all the replies. I don't see anything wrong with keeping the casing in my terrarium (floating in another rubbermade containing a hot water heater to keep temps up)-- I won't mist as much now that I know it maintains a high humidity within the tin foil-- It's on day 4 so hopefully I will see some mycellium colonization within the next few days-- and I'll go ahead and drop that temp, introduce light and air exchanges :]

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