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Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)?
#9039322 - 10/06/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can only find photos on the Internet that are seeding (fuzzy), and cannot tell if this is the same. According to the Arboretum I went to the other day, this is it.
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cpw1971
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: Cakes]
#9039644 - 10/06/08 10:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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hard to tell from your pic. theres many factors that go into identifying it and just looking at the tops isn't enough. heres a pic of some I grew...
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the man
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: cpw1971]
#9039855 - 10/06/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea get yourself a disecting scope adn a dicotimous key. grasses are the worst to identify. well at least for me
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SirSmokesAlot
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: the man]
#9040595 - 10/07/08 03:31 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is the active in Sleepy Grass?
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Cakes
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
#9040629 - 10/07/08 03:55 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Stipa robusta (= Stipa vaseyi) is a perennial grass found in certain areas of the southwestern United States. It is commonly known as sleepygrass, as horses that ingest this grass may become profoundly somnolent or stuporous for periods of time lasting up to several days. In an attempt to determine the active principle(s), fractionation of a methanolic extract of sleepygrass infected with an Acremonium endophyte has yielded lysergic acid amide (20 ug/g dry wt), isolysergic amide (8), 8-hydroxylysergic acid amide (0.3), ergonovine (7), chanoclavine-l (15), and N-formylloline (18). Related alkaloids have been found in many endophyte-infected grasses. The dominant alkaloid constituent in sleepygrass, lysergic acid amide, has not previously been identified in a grass in such high concentration. Lysergic acid amide is likely to be the basis for the extreme sedative effects on animals, given past pharmocological work on the compound from the ergot fungus Claviceps paspali. © 1992 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
There doesn't seem to be much experience with this plant, and people who have tried it have not reported much success. However, I would like to experiment with it a bit, maybe with some cold water extractions, and see what I can learn.
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SirSmokesAlot
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: Cakes]
#9040631 - 10/07/08 03:57 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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So LSA?
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Cakes
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
#9040632 - 10/07/08 03:58 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yessir!
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SirSmokesAlot
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Re: Is this Sleepy Grass (Stipa Robusta)? [Re: Cakes]
#9040650 - 10/07/08 04:13 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm. Well that is interesting. I've done LSA in MG, and HBWR. I wonder if an extraction of sleepy grass would be easier. I also wonder if the yield per effort would be better.
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