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alkylbenzene23
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Using nutreint rich water.
#9028846 - 10/04/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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So, I'm wondering, has anybody used the nutrient rich water left over from pasteurizing bulk subs to rehydrate their cakes?
I've got a cake that I'm going to try it on, leftovers from coir and coffee mix, I'm just waiting for it too cool down to the point it won't burn the mycelium. Why will it burn the myc? Because its been sitting around for a few days, and stuck it in the microwave to boil. Yuck contams! Boil == BYE!
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tripchip
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not good to "re-hydrate" with. you could have used it from the start when "making" the cakes though but if they are already colonized your just gonna fck your cakes. if any contams float on that cake they'll colonize the nurients on the outside of the cake.
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george castanza
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Re: Using nutreint rich water. [Re: tripchip]
#9028885 - 10/04/08 02:28 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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tripchip said: not good to "re-hydrate" with. you could have used it from the start when "making" the cakes though but if they are already colonized your just gonna fck your cakes. if any contams float on that cake they'll colonize the nurients on the outside of the cake.
sounds like good advice to me
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Re: Using nutreint rich water. [Re: tripchip]
#9028893 - 10/04/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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everyone will tell you its a no no. BUT if if really want to experiment then try injecting the cake with the nutrient water. dont dunk it in the stuff. this MAY work.
if you dunk in the nutrient water I would rinse the outside of the cake very well to wash off the nutrients on the outsde of the cake. It MAY work.
either way doing what you are doing is kind of a no no. you may succeed using one of the ways I described but you have a very HIGH possibility of contamed cakes and the out come on yield/size wont really be that huge compared to leaving them be.
If you dont want to mess anything up then dont even try it but If you really wanna see what happens and dont care about wasting some cakes then go for it. Just dont expect to succeed.
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george castanza
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alkylbenzene23 said: ... stuck it in the microwave to boil. Yuck contams! Boil == BYE!
The minute you dip your cake in that stuff contams will be landing on it left and right, unless you have a serious laboratory type set up. Don't do it nothing good will happen.
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alkylbenzene23
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Well, the main thing in this is going to be nitrogen, I don't see much growing on that itself.
Also, I just spotted more trich... FUCKING TRICH >_>. Lost all of my cakes to trich before the second flush. So, I think I'll hydrate the cake and the trich... maby I'll get something... only one cake in the FC. I have nothing to lose.
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alkylbenzene23
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george castanza said:
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alkylbenzene23 said: ... stuck it in the microwave to boil. Yuck contams! Boil == BYE!
The minute you dip your cake in that stuff contams will be landing on it left and right, unless you have a serious laboratory type set up. Don't do it nothing good will happen.
Forgot to mention... Covered it in plastic first! So yea, the solution is sterile.
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tripchip
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yeah the solution may be sterile but you have to take it out eventually to fruit. then its in an un-sterile environemt.
sorry but our cakes are DOOOOOMED
and what?? you already see trich?
yep, DOOOOMED
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Re: Using nutreint rich water. [Re: tripchip]
#9029385 - 10/04/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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The best thing to enhance colonization speeds, I found are literal nutrients: such as flax seed, for example.
Wouldn't mess with "nutrient water", just because it seems like something that would love to harvest germs. But if you're a crazy experimenter like some of my friends, nothing should be stopping you from trying =)
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Re: Using nutreint rich water. [Re: greystealth]
#9029676 - 10/04/08 06:53 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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much fae do you provide?
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Juke Adro
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alkylbenzene23 said: So, I'm wondering, has anybody used the nutrient rich water left over from pasteurizing bulk subs to rehydrate their cakes?
I've got a cake that I'm going to try it on, leftovers from coir and coffee mix, I'm just waiting for it too cool down to the point it won't burn the mycelium. Why will it burn the myc? Because its been sitting around for a few days, and stuck it in the microwave to boil. Yuck contams! Boil == BYE!
yeah I do it for my casings sometimes, I use the manure water left over from pasteurising it works fine and will not cause contamination because it holds millions of good microbes, I done it with PE just last week
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Re: Using nutreint rich water. [Re: Juke Adro]
#9029752 - 10/04/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Juke Adro said: yeah I do it for my casings sometimes, I use the manure water left over from pasteurising it works fine and will not cause contamination because it holds millions of good microbes, I done it with PE just last week
Do you notice any difference compared to regular water?
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Juke Adro
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Re: Using nutreint rich water. [Re: FooMan]
#9029768 - 10/04/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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nope funny thing tho I always do it to the first flush I have yet to try it on a second and third, which IMO would be more beneficial.
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