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 LeftyBurnz
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 If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... 
#8858421 - 08/31/08 11:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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heres some statistics to underline those fears. we might want to think twice about sticking our noses into russia and georgia's business. i threw iran in there for shits and giggles(since theres always that possibility that they could join the fight against us with the other two).
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
AVAILABLE MILITARY MANPOWER
(Individuals Capable of Military Service; Male and Female)
China - 667,657,509
United States of America - 134,813,023
Russia - 71,233,475
Iran - 35,860,582
AVAILABLE MANPOWER FIT FOR MILITARY SERVICE
(Male and Female)
China - 550,265,789
United States of America - 109,305,756
Russia - 50,105,672
Iran - 30,671,322
AVERAGE YEARLY AVAILABLE MILITARY MANPOWER
(Avaerage Pool of Available Military Manpower in a Given Year)
China - 25,848,582
United States of America - 4,180,074
Russia - 2,530,333
Iran - 1,670,100
TOTAL AVAILABLE MILITARY PERSONNEL
(Active, Reserves and Units Ready for Mobilization)
China - 2,255,000
United States of America- 1,426,026
Russia - 1,037,000
Iran - 745,000
AIRCRAFT
(Includes Fixed-Wing and Rotary Systems)
United States of America - 18,169
Russia - 7,331
China- 2,700
Iran - 954
ARMOR UNITS
(Includes Tracked & Wheeled MBT and APC Units)
Russia - 48,270
United States of America - 29,920
China - 13,200
Iran - 2,380
NAVY SHIPS INVENTORY
United States of America - 1,866
Russia - 701
China - 232
Iran - 65
ARTILLERY SYSTEMS
(Includes Tracked, Wheeled and Towed Systems)
Russia - 30,045
China - 7,400
United States of America - 5,178
Iran - 4,594
DEFENSIVE MISSILE SYSTEMS
( Heavy Anti-Tank and SAM Systems)
United States of America - 35,324
Russia - 19,250
China - 2,162
Iran - 1,760
INFANTRY SUPPORT WEAPONS
( Mortar and Anti-Tank Missile Systems)
China - 34,000
Russia - 19,300
Iran - 12,500
United States of America - 2,441
SQUARE LAND AREA PER COUNTRY
(in Square Kilometers)
Russia - 17,075,200
United States of America - 9,631,418
China - 9,596,960
Iran - 1,648,000
TOP OIL PRODUCERS
(Listed by Barrels-per-Day)
Russia - 9,677,000
United States of America - 8,322,000
Iran - 4,150,000
China - 3,710,000
TOP PROVEN OIL RESERVES
(in Barrels)
Iran - 132,500,000,000
Russia - 60,000,000,000
United States of America - 21,760,000,000
China - 16,300,000,000
TOP LABOR FORCES OF THE WORLD
(For the Prospect of Industrial Wartime Mobilization)
China - 803,300,000
United States of America - 153,100,000
Russia - 72,400,000
Iran - 28,700,000
GOLD RESERVE PER COUNTRY
China - $1,493,000,000
Russia - $470,000,000
Iran - $69,200,000
United States of America - $65,890,000
as you can see from the statistics(at oldest these are 4 years old), we clearly have a superior air force and navy along with defensive missile systems, which is great, and gives us a good sharp edge above them, however, concerning the rest of the statistics, we arent in such great shape, and when you see all of these statistics together, and you think about the nations as a whole, how they function, health and determination..... it kind of sobers the american superiority complex. lets not forget the fact that these countries have become close economic and more than likely military allies is more disturbing.
just thought some of you might find this interesting/sobering/frightening. 
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858437 - 08/31/08 11:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats a very good point, however when you are including all 3 of them combined, you also have to consider our allies that would come to our defense were some international crisis to take place.
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LightShedder]
#8858461 - 09/01/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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and then you also have to include all of the threes allies as well. and seriously, facing world war 3, who do you honestly think would commit to fighting with us besides britain? my hopes arent high for many others.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858464 - 09/01/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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we could just hydro bomb them and kill every single one of them and delete their whole culture overnite
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Coaster]
#8858475 - 09/01/08 12:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because everyone loves a global thermonuclear war...
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Entropymancer]
#8858487 - 09/01/08 12:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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nuke war sounds great
fire on the mountian!
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Coaster]
#8858497 - 09/01/08 12:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
we could just hydro bomb them and kill every single one of them and delete their whole culture overnite
Estimated Nuclear Arsenal active/total
United States 4,075 / 5,535
Russia 5,200 / 8,800
China 160
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858504 - 09/01/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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We need countries to not have militaries, nukes, missiles or assault weapons. Bottom line.
I know it isn't that simple, but fuck, logically and morally, what's the point? It makes me want to puke.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Drewwyann]
#8858506 - 09/01/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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for real
it is that simple though.
unfortunately the people who have a say in the matter disagree. fuckin pricks.
Edited by LightShedder (09/01/08 12:22 AM)
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Drewwyann]
#8858511 - 09/01/08 12:22 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ditto
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: KingOftheThing]
#8858520 - 09/01/08 12:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I happen to know, why? Its my job to know...dismiss me as you will..but I know..this will not happen. If it were going to it would have already trust me. We depend on each other too much. Something like this will not happen in todays modern global economic structure..atleast not over night..now..will the other up coming super powers make us irelevant enonomically over time?? Very possible..Even probable in my opinion..but it will never be WWII style again..It will be with fake smiles in corperate meetings of huge mergers. ..that is the new hydrogen bomb.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LightShedder]
#8858522 - 09/01/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand nationalism. It's a dirty, dirty illusion.
I would never back my country's fight with my own blood. Never. Especially not the blood of another person.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Drewwyann]
#8858523 - 09/01/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Drewwyann said:
We need countries to not have militaries, nukes, missiles or assault weapons. Bottom line.
I know it isn't that simple, but fuck, logically and morally, what's the point? It makes me want to puke.
in a perfect world this would be great, but no matter how much the people want it, not only is it not that simple, its impossible. there will never be a day where every single country agrees to disarm completely, and as long as theres that one country that refuses, the rest will never do it. noone wants to become the weaker country. plain and simple.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LightShedder]
#8858525 - 09/01/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
LightShedder said:
for real
it is that simple though.
unfortunately the people who have a say in the matter disagree. fuckin pricks.
its not that simple. even if our governments agreed to it, there would always be rogue militaries, gangs, revolutionaries and etc, that would never give up their weapons, and by default they would then be in charge. it would never work. in a vacuum of power, someone will step up and TAKE it.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: the_0wl]
#8858535 - 09/01/08 12:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
the_0wl said:
I happen to know, why? Its my job to know...dismiss me as you will..but I know..this will not happen. If it were going to it would have already trust me. We depend on each other too much. Something like this will not happen in todays modern global economic structure..atleast not over night..now..will the other up coming super powers make us irelevant enonomically over time?? Very possible..Even probable in my opinion..but it will never be WWII style again..It will be with fake smiles in corperate meetings of huge mergers. ..that is the new hydrogen bomb.
youre naive if you think the age of sheer military force is over. youre forgetting, much of the world does not operate the way we do.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858548 - 09/01/08 12:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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shouldn't this be in PA&L? you're gonna give people nightmares in here
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: Shroomism]
#8858560 - 09/01/08 12:36 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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shit. i forgot there are gentle minds in here....... 
and besides, if i wanted intelligent discussion i would go get it. im just looking for the thoughts of the average pub joes. 
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858576 - 09/01/08 12:42 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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We would own china. Sorry. We have a bigger and more technologically advanced navy and airforce. Plus waaay more nuclear weapons. Reading your statistics, I don't see much to worry about. 
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858585 - 09/01/08 12:43 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
leftysurprise said:
Quote:
the_0wl said:
I happen to know, why? Its my job to know...dismiss me as you will..but I know..this will not happen. If it were going to it would have already trust me. We depend on each other too much. Something like this will not happen in todays modern global economic structure..atleast not over night..now..will the other up coming super powers make us irelevant enonomically over time?? Very possible..Even probable in my opinion..but it will never be WWII style again..It will be with fake smiles in corperate meetings of huge mergers. ..that is the new hydrogen bomb.
youre naive if you think the age of sheer military force is over. youre forgetting, much of the world does not operate the way we do.
These 3 powers are very very economically dependant on each other..Ameraica dies without China and vice versa..and Russia as they've displayed in Georgia is a total joke now..as we've long suspected since the end of the cold war..after all..who's been in constant real war since then?? Us..we're polished and practiced. Russia's performance in Georgia was embarrasing. It took them several sorties to bomb a single pipeline. And they let a very crude and simple military force down several of their best fighter jets. This is not a military we should fear. But China..yes..they scare the shit out of me. A total war declaration between us and them would be devestating to the whole world. But economically we cant live without each other. . .And we both know this.
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Re: If china and russia didnt scare you enough already... [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8858602 - 09/01/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well you know half this place is full of peace-loving freaks, so you pretty much know their position.
But yeah if you want my opinion I think its all a bunch of disgusting bullshit. Military is fucking retarded.
Ok.. it's one thing if you have a military to defend your nation and its peoples. That's cool.
But that's not what they are doing most of the time. Going to other nations and destroying them, starting wars over complete bullshit, slaughtering innocent people, even their own people. He with the biggest gun (dick) wins? It's all a bunch of fucking murderous bullshit and every slimy cockhead motherfucker will be held accountable for their own actions in the end.
And what does it all come down to? Civilization and the exportation of resources. Oh you don't want to trade with us? That's cool, we'll come over there and take it. Oh look at how small my dick is, I mean.. how big my guns are.. I am going to kill a bunch of helpless people to express my illusion of superiority. Power games and world domination. FUCKING BULLSHIT.
I don't give a fucking shit who has the most weapons of mass destruction. An Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. The next world war would be the end of the human civilization as we know it.
We're fucking retarded. Destroying our own planet and each other in the process.
And cold-blooded murder or MASS MURDER makes me sick and fucking angry I don't give a fuck who you are.
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