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 deCypher
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 The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? 
#8820806 - 08/24/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wasn't quite sure where to put this post, but I figured Mysticism & Paranormal would be the best place for some pseudo-explanation.
So I've been reading up on some methods for opening the third eye, and it seems a fairly common practice is to close one's eyes, focus on a point slightly above your eyes and near your forehead, and concentrate until you see a glowing dot get bigger and bigger until it explodes; opening your third eye in the process.
Now, whenever I smoke marijuana, I get a consistent CEV of a bright white disk get brighter and brighter until by the time I've finished smoking it takes up a significant portion of my inner eye space. I've been thinking this is somehow related to the third eye, given its parallel nature, but the odd nature of it is that it's not in the center of my vision--it always appears to be asymmetrically skewed to the upper right of my field of view.
Any explanation for this sort of phenomenon, or people having similar experiences?
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 Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8823692 - 08/25/08 08:29 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I suspect this whole process of opening the third eye, is actually nothing but training of visualizing your imagination. If you practice each day, it is possible to visualize your imagination in front of your eyes as if you are dreaming. The more you practice the greater clarity the visualizations gain. You can try this right now, you can close your eyes (or keep them open, it doesn't matter), imagine something, and you will see it in the minds eye, but only with 0.1% clarity. Through daily practice you can increase this clarity to 100% eventually. Using all your 5 senses, imagining it to be 3D, using different colors and making the picture bigger and bigger increases clarity.
But then again, the third eye and imagination might have nothing to do with each other, no idea, because I don't really know that much about opening the third eye, but I think my suspicions are correct tho, that the third eye is actually the minds eye, your imagination.
I've had similar experiences as you when im on weed, but I can control what I see. When sober clarity sucks for me, but it is in the progress of improving..
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: Diaboleros]
#8823876 - 08/25/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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When we refer to the third eye we are actually talking about the pineal gland. This gland is responsible for the release of many hormones including melatonin and dimethyltriptamine or DMT as it is referred to. The gland is light sensitive and in more primitive animals,such as lizards and amphibians, it has a retina and cornea which help it to regulate body temperature and color. In more evolved animals such as humans it sits deeper in the brain and is not as light sensitive. The pineal gland is first visible in the human fetus at seven weeks and produces its first flood of DMT. Some scientists believe that this flood of DMT is what brings about consciousness. This is also the first time that gender is visible. Dr. Rick Strassman wrote a book about a clinical study on DMT that he performed titled DMT The Spirit Molecule. In the book he explains when the body dies the pineal gland releases a flood of DMT and it is thought that the chemical is responsible for near death experiences of those who are brought back to life. As a matter of fact this final flood of DMT remains active in the brain up to four hours after death so it is very possible that after you die you remain in an active state of consciousness during this time. It is responsible for the white light that everyone floats towards when they die and perhaps that is the same bright white disc that you are seeing when you smoke. Maybe those who have had near death experiences get the impression that they are floating towards the light when in actuality the disc of light is merely growing like in your experiences Cypher.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: jcesar10]
#8824097 - 08/25/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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jcesar10 said:In the book he explains when the body dies the pineal gland releases a flood of DMT and it is thought that the chemical is responsible for near death experiences of those who are brought back to life. As a matter of fact this final flood of DMT remains active in the brain up to four hours after death so it is very possible that after you die you remain in an active state of consciousness during this time. It is responsible for the white light that everyone floats towards when they die and perhaps that is the same bright white disc that you are seeing when you smoke.
This is all just speculation, and even Dr. Strassman says he has no conclusive evidence for any of this. It's a nice idea, but scientifically speaking there's not much validity to it.
And yeah, visualization is the shit. I've been trying to get into it more as of late, but there's just something fundamentally different about this bright white spot that I've been observing. Ordinarily, when high, my mind's eye will come up with just about anything and project it to my inner theatre--whereas with this, I can't seem to move it to the other side of my vision or change it to a different color. The consistency of the damned thing is almost eerie.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8829316 - 08/26/08 06:08 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Look into Dzogchen Togel practices.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: jcesar10]
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: Chrissi]
#8843260 - 08/28/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow my third eye erupted reading this thread... as i was reading and taking these concept into my head reality shifted around me like i was tripping... i have learned how to access my third eye quite well.... i am still practicing.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: RedRainDrop]
#8843489 - 08/28/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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And what techniques do you perform to access your third eye?
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8855732 - 08/31/08 11:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
So I've been reading up on some methods for opening the third eye, and it seems a fairly common practice is to close one's eyes, focus on a point slightly above your eyes and near your forehead, and concentrate until you see a glowing dot get bigger and bigger until it explodes; opening your third eye in the process.
Wow. I didn't know that was something other people see too...
I first saw this on acid the first time I tripped. I was "in" my mirror and I was there for a good hour. I can't explain it if i tried. I would just focus my eyes somehow and there was a white dot and I would just "go into" it. I could come out of it but I didn't want to.
Very interesting... I think I'm gonna read into this more.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8860451 - 09/01/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Third eye feeds off attention, meditating & concentrating attention between the brows will easily open the third eye noticibly. Just breathe & keep attention between the brow, thats all you need to do to experience the physical sensation of it 'opening'
However its used alot more than can be prooved, anytime you really focus attention one something its being used
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8862741 - 09/01/08 08:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is supposed to be the "third eye"?
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: isaacein]
#8862872 - 09/01/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The whole concept is so rooted in mysticism and spirituality that it'll be hard to find a precise definition, IMO. Supposedly it's part of the chakra system, if you buy into that sort of thing.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8862940 - 09/01/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
The whole concept is so rooted in mysticism and spirituality that it'll be hard to find a precise definition, IMO. Supposedly it's part of the chakra system, if you buy into that sort of thing.
Those who can feel their chakras know that they exist.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: Poid]
#8862956 - 09/01/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep, I've experienced them myself plenty, and I'm sure there's some neurological basis behind it, but most literature that deals with chakras tends to throw on the spiritual hoo-ha and hand-waving in my opinion.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: Poid]
#8863043 - 09/01/08 09:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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The Cypher said:
The whole concept is so rooted in mysticism and spirituality that it'll be hard to find a precise definition, IMO. Supposedly it's part of the chakra system, if you buy into that sort of thing.
Those who can feel their chakras know that they exist.
Ah! The eternal problem of religious belief.
And those who don't feel them, know that they don't exist?
Hinduism is interesting though. I'm way too skeptical to buy any of it, but it seems like a much more down-to-earth religion than, say, Christianism.
Have the Hindus waged much war in the past to defend their beliefs?
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: isaacein]
#8863625 - 09/01/08 11:10 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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isaacein said:
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Poid said:
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The Cypher said:
The whole concept is so rooted in mysticism and spirituality that it'll be hard to find a precise definition, IMO. Supposedly it's part of the chakra system, if you buy into that sort of thing.
Those who can feel their chakras know that they exist.
Ah! The eternal problem of religious belief.
And those who don't feel them, know that they don't exist?
Hinduism is interesting though. I'm way too skeptical to buy any of it, but it seems like a much more down-to-earth religion than, say, Christianism.
Have the Hindus waged much war in the past to defend their beliefs?
Spirituality is far different than religious beliefs... I was atheist for a good 7 years of my life because I was raised just a little catholic (i had to make my conformation and haven't been to a church since).
Then you realized there are good aspects of all the major religious texts, and a lot of human bullshit added in as well.
Too much skepticism is not warranted here in M&P! XD
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8865205 - 09/02/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
I wasn't quite sure where to put this post, but I figured Mysticism & Paranormal would be the best place for some pseudo-explanation.
So I've been reading up on some methods for opening the third eye, and it seems a fairly common practice is to close one's eyes, focus on a point slightly above your eyes and near your forehead, and concentrate until you see a glowing dot get bigger and bigger until it explodes; opening your third eye in the process.
Now, whenever I smoke marijuana, I get a consistent CEV of a bright white disk get brighter and brighter until by the time I've finished smoking it takes up a significant portion of my inner eye space. I've been thinking this is somehow related to the third eye, given its parallel nature, but the odd nature of it is that it's not in the center of my vision--it always appears to be asymmetrically skewed to the upper right of my field of view.
Any explanation for this sort of phenomenon, or people having similar experiences?
It sounds like a self awareness feedback loop.
The left hemisphere of your brain is all carved up by what's right and wrong- but the right hemisphere feels how it wants. That is why it is skewed to the right.
You feel as though you are becoming spiritually aware, but you do not want to be arrogant. You still see God as above you- this is your attempt at humility. That is why it is skewed upward.
I have not integrated my third eye awareness yet, but I have had intense L-R asymmetry form when I am dashing through calculus too fast. It almost feels like one of my eyes wants to pop out. Weed will intensify that feeling for me.
PS: I hope you meant it when you said you only wanted a pseudo-explanation.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#8865385 - 09/02/08 11:40 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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You should start up a mystic cult.
I (might) join.
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: deCypher]
#8866658 - 09/02/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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(I like the way you think)
It is done.
Cult
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Re: The third eye and CEVs from marijuana? [Re: isaacein]
#8876316 - 09/04/08 10:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:The whole concept is so rooted in mysticism and spirituality that it'll be hard to find a precise definition, IMO. Supposedly it's part of the chakra system, if you buy into that sort of thing.
Those who can feel their chakras know that they exist.
Ah! The eternal problem of religious belief.And those who don't feel them, know that they don't exist?Hinduism is interesting though. I'm way too skeptical to buy any of it, but it seems like a much more down-to-earth religion than, say, Christianism.Have the Hindus waged much war in the past to defend their beliefs?
Those who don't, can't, or haven't felt them YET just haven't discovered them, that's it. Every human has the capacity to open and realize their chakras. Chakras have been known to the ancients for thousands of years, to deny ancient wisdom would be downright foolish. The word chakra is merely a term for a physical phenomenon, it's nothing to do with religion in its own right. I am not a person of any religion, but you're right, if I had to choose between Hinduism and Christianity, I would definitely choose Hinduism.
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