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 what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? 
#8777782 - 08/15/08 01:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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what if someone found out (by knowing organic chemistry) that they could use simple stuff that is commonly available to synthesize a never before heard of drug?
i know people cook crank and shit, because that stuff is commonly available
if they do i hope it is a psychedelic.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8777790 - 08/15/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can make acid by putting a bit of Aquafresh toothpaste on a banana peel, add a little orange rind, and just let it sit in your bathtub in direct sunlight for about eight days straight. Ya trip balls, motherfucker, I swears it.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8777815 - 08/15/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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So what if they did?
DMT and mesc are already easy as hell to extract to crystal.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#8777820 - 08/15/08 01:49 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol
i was thinking more along the lines of something a little more realistic
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Ego Death]
#8777824 - 08/15/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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also something new.
besides, i meant synthesis, not extraction
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8777834 - 08/15/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont see the point of your question though?
So what if someone makes a new easily synthesized psychedelic?
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8777839 - 08/15/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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dont worry,
sooner or later someone will comeup
with a new drug and ways to make
it. its just a matter of time
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: stewy1412]
#8777874 - 08/15/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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would be nice if something new was easy to make, or with readily available stuff.
seems even the new stuff, like rc's are outside of the hands of normal people to make
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8777899 - 08/15/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cannabischarlie said:
would be nice if something new was easy to make, or with readily available stuff.
seems even the new stuff, like rc's are outside of the hands of normal people to make
whats your definition of normal people?
people who dont know chemistry?
cause even if you know chemistry it dont mean your going to be able to play with a chemical that has a completely unknown structure.
you need a lot more than a knowledge of chemistry, and by that i mean expensive equipment for testing, and access to lots of supplies for experimenting.'
if people havent done it already, it either most likely cant be done out of readily available stuff, or were waiting on an organic starting point like a chemical waiting to be found in some fish or something.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: CptnGarden]
#8777904 - 08/15/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i am aware, and that is what i mean.
seems dumbasses make crank, but then again they have no real knowledge of chemistry.
oh, LSH which seems to have someone on the pharm and chem board seems promising, if they can get it down, it seems like a synthesis, going from lsa and making lsh.
i would rather do that, because the descrip seems more like its closer to lsd than lsa is. i like more visuals.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8778036 - 08/15/08 02:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hoffman himself said it (lsh) was the closest thing in nature to lsd.
and theres no "synthesis" for it really.
mix a dose of LSA in a glass of red wine, add 2-5 drops of organic mint oil (not the fake shit), stir and let sit in the fridge for a few hours.
in the presence of a slightly acidic environment (wine)and in the presence of acetaldehyde(in both wine and mint oil), LSA becomes LSH, and LSH is not stable so it needs ethanol so it wont degrade.
if you dont know about Kykeon i would suggest reading about it.
i think we may be stumbling onto an ancient secret used for prophetic visions and divination.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: CptnGarden]
#8778051 - 08/15/08 03:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i read something that said LSD was also maybe something ancient as well....
they also found methylampthetamines and other amph in the acacia tree, which also has nicotine, mescaline, dmt, etc in it. weird tree 
they thought the methylampthetamines and amph where just human creations, but it existed in nature.
so... i dont understand how the lsh is not a synthesis if it turns from one thing to another? ephedrine to desoxyephedrine (methylamphetamine) and morphine to diacetylmorphine (heroin) is a synthesis.
so you have to take it with ethanol, or it will degrade outside of the ethanol?
i would want a real good workup and a good tek before trying it, which seems to be on its way
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8778128 - 08/15/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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the teks already there.
i guess your right it is sort of a synthesis, only its a one-step one-pot reaction.
yes LSH is unstable so it needs to be in ethanol of some sort, either everclear or red wine.
LSD is not made naturally, theres way too many processes needed in order to make it. i doubt anyone would have had the technology to make it back then.
also, methamphetamine was not actually found in the acacia tree if you reread the article, something was converted into methamphetamine in "one" of the extraction processes. a few different extractions were done on the tree, 2 of which meth would have been soluble in, and only one of them yielded methamphetamine.
i guess it depends on which article you read though, theres a few pieces of literature out there on it.
im actually wondering WHAT was in the tree that turned into meth, considering it couldnt have been that elaborate of an extraction process.
it may be a new route that people will be picking up on sooner or later.
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: CptnGarden]
#8778153 - 08/15/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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What I want to know is when is a new drug going to be made that is as popular as LSD and ecstasy. A drug that effects a whole generation and will be used in generations after that.
I want something like that, that isn't considered a hard drug.
Chemists, get to work!
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8778211 - 08/15/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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what about the basketball tek?
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: marshalldylan1]
#8778236 - 08/15/08 03:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
marshalldylan1 said:
What I want to know is when is a new drug going to be made that is as popular as LSD and ecstasy. A drug that effects a whole generation and will be used in generations after that.
I want something like that, that isn't considered a hard drug.
Chemists, get to work!
qft
i wonder whether anything as unique as lsd or ecstasy will ever be discovered
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: sam420]
#8778245 - 08/15/08 03:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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we'll call it exstacid
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: CptnGarden]
#8778287 - 08/15/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats where the confusion lies, because it is hard to make, maybe they stumbled upon somethingwe dont know about, its happened many times.
as far as the LSH tek goes, i would want something pretty precise, i just read the first few posts in that thread.
simply because it would be pretty shitty to waste the LSA, also i think i will wait for someone to refine whatever techniques exist for max yield.
as far as acacia, ihad read that on wiki, so thats always suspect.
got a link for the other article?
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8778437 - 08/15/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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no i dont have a link for that article but i will look for it for you, cause i remember it being a bit hard to locate, i think someone posted the link on this site though so ill look around here first.
the process has already been "Refined" if you have read the many threads on LSH. search for a thread called "lsa the easy way"
and lsa is plentiful, a dose is like 4$, and even if u mess up u wont be losing anything.
if you know who Acyl is, hes probably one if not the most intelligent chemist on these boards, and he said the process (as long as you dont let the pH get below 4) will work.
pH below 4 will start destroying LSA.
pour a shot of vodka, add 3 drops of REAL mint oil, 3 drops of lemon juice, and dissolve your LSA into it, and leave it in the fridge for a few hours to react.
THAT is a legit recipe for LSH without wasting a drop, and LSH is supposedly more potent than LSA so even if it all doesnt convert you wont have to worry about not experiencing anything.
if the LSH does not stay in a solution of ethanol, the only thing that will happen is it will break back down into LSA and mint oil...
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Re: what if someone made a new drug that could be made easily? [Re: CptnGarden]
#8778457 - 08/15/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmmm...
i oughta try it then, any word on experiences?
i will go check out the thread a little better, i am sure i can find mint oil around town.
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