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ozweego5
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HELP ID............ Think there SUBS
#8730488 - 08/05/08 06:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Habitat: we found these on freshly sodded grass in and around our new home depot
Gills: The color is a rusty purpleISH color, they are close together with tears of gills i think like 2 sets
Stem: they were thin stems and not very big caps but I have seen thin stem subbs. the longest we found was prolly 4 inches
Cap:its a goldish tan, some of them have a darker ring around the edge of the cap, they are all a little different in size and shape
Spore print color: Black
Bruising: have not noticed any bruising
I finally think i found the subbs, I took someones advice on were to look for them and BINGO i hope Any luck??
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8730519 - 08/05/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think you finally found subbs too (as long as spore print is black)
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ozweego5
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: Dishez]
#8730622 - 08/05/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah i have checked out a couple of the spore prints and they are black but its not as dark as the spore prints on the picture for the Subheadhunters 420 guide to finding subbs, but they are also pretty dry when i picked them and i did not put any water on them but just setting a few caps on white paper, they def. leave a black print!
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8730903 - 08/05/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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if its black pan subbs, if its not black its pan foes... You can eat both safely but only the subbs will make you trip
also Subbs are Panaeolus subbalteatus
Subs are Psilocybe subaeruginascens
Have fun homie
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ozweego5
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: implee]
#8730930 - 08/05/08 08:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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well what color are the pan foe's? I was also wondering what the best way to dry these are? I have them layed out in my dresser with a fan blowing on them with an AC going. What is a good dose amount for like a level 3 trip and can you eat them wet or are they not as potent??
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8730986 - 08/05/08 08:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dont put them right under the AC because ac's produce condensation, but under a fan is good
You can sit them inside your computer case on something as long as they arent touching anything except the bottom.
Photo by Gumby
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ozweego5
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8731249 - 08/05/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok I am going to take a good spore sample tonight and see how she looks in the mourning, yeah i dont have them anywere near the ac but have a fan blowing on them.Either way both types are edible? and if these are foes does that mean I could be close to subbs? sorry for being a newb
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8731643 - 08/05/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man foes and subbs look almost exactly the same and they grow in the same place side by side (subb/foe experts can tell the difference easily though apparently) foes arent poisonous but they arent exactly edible... So if you eat them nothing happens but you wont get sick..
Check out the subbed hunters subb guide http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7008112#7008112
Also, if it looks like a subb or foe and it grows on a lawn it probably wont be poisonous or deadly BUT poisonous and deadly mushrooms can grow in or around lawns, so make sure its at least a foe/subb before you eat it
Good luck and have fun
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: implee]
#8732274 - 08/06/08 03:30 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man thanks for all of your help. I have taken a few pics to show the spore print and maybe someone could confirm PAN or FOE??
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8732291 - 08/06/08 03:43 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well some look jet black if they are then you got subbs, it should be easier for you to tell though
Also some people say if you get a black sharpie and mark it right next to it, the will be the same color, as you can see foes have a browner tint
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: implee]
#8732301 - 08/06/08 03:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea some of them are really immature and did not leave a very BOLD print but was black just not DARK BOLD BLACK but the ones that were more mature left a very dark bold color for print. Yeah my camera sucks and i am shaky as it is so to get a good shot not likely. Would the maturity of the mushroom make a difference on how dark and bold the color of the spore is?
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ozweego5
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8732305 - 08/06/08 03:55 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was just looking at more of the prints and I think that I got mostly Subbs with a few FOES in ther cuz I did notice that there was like 2 or 3 prints that looked a little different with a browner tint to the black color instead of DARK black, I also did the black sharpie and it is just as dark the print! Thats my assumption, I will just make a Tea and put them all in, like you said the foes wont hurt me!! Thanks Impee You have been a great help and look forward to many threads ahead..
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8732313 - 08/06/08 04:08 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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more matured mushrooms tend to have more spores i think (on cubes at least) Also, to take a print make sure you put a bowl or tupperware or something over the top of the mushrooms, it helps keep in humidity so that your subbs dont dry up, when they stay fresh longer they leave better prints... When they dry up they dont drop any more spores.
Also, dont boil your subbs when you make tea, the bottom and sides of the pot are past the psilocin/psilocybin melting point so it might hurt the potency.
have fun
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8732322 - 08/06/08 04:19 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow another instance you have put me in the right direction, I did not know that about the tea ! Thanks I will just eat them now! I am going to go out and try to see if I can find some more of them today as well and maybe get my spore prints going directly after I pick them, Yea I will put somthing over them from now on as well like you said tupperware which is what ill use. Would you agree with me that its likely that i got both Subbs and Foes well if you could see the spore prints better, most have a dark dark black print and a couple have a more brownish tint to them, well could it be likely ?
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8732341 - 08/06/08 04:30 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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If its dark black they should be subbs, its likely you got a few foes in there also though.
I hope they are strong enough for effects
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ozweego5
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: implee]
#8732345 - 08/06/08 04:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea once I eat them I will get back to you , I am also going out today to try and get more. Thanks for everything.. Yea lets prey they work out and be Active enough to trip thanks holms
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: ozweego5]
#8732351 - 08/06/08 04:38 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Apparently a lot of times they are as potent as cubes by weight, so eat about 10-30 grams fresh or 1-3 grams dry (WITH CUBES 1 Dry or 10 Fresh is base line effects, 2 Dry or 20 Fresh would give good effects but not be too heavy, 3 Dry or 30 Fresh gives decently heavy effects) also fresh tend to be a little more potent than dried apparently.
But keep in mind ive only found subbs a couple times, and i never had enough to dose.
good luck on finding more
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: implee]
#8732376 - 08/06/08 04:49 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dose subbs since they start poppin before weilii do. I love them i usually eat 4-7grms dry and have a great trip.
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8732382 - 08/06/08 04:50 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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If i were you i would eat all that you have, youll need that many to have a good time.
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ozweego5
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Re: HELP ID............ Think there SUBS [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8732565 - 08/06/08 07:25 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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actually the pictures that I showed are not all that I have, I prolly have 8-10 grams when dried! but I am going to get more right NOW!Be back in a bit with some more hopefully
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