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 wyldeman007
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 The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... 
#8690594 - 07/27/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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If genes are passed on by the acclimation of the most symbiotic and reciprocal molecular environment, death must be factored in at some point. If there is an afterlife, or a separate plane of existence to which dead ancestors flourish, would they not be ill equipped to survive in such an environment? There would be a kind of competition entropy due to the population of inadequate organisms and mutations. Would this ethereal dimension become corrupted by life itself? What is the plausible proponent of an afterlife in this context?
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Edited by wyldeman007 (07/27/08 11:11 PM)
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 Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: wyldeman007]
#8690626 - 07/27/08 10:56 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Since we are bound to the sensory input of our physical bodies here in life,
it is very difficult to speculate on the characters we would have with,
or without a different set of senses and/or source sensory input....
I would imagine that if there is something more than here,
we would adapt to that reality and become part of that cycle and flow - as we were born into it....
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 Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: wyldeman007]
#8690627 - 07/27/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya lost me.
I think most assumptions about the afterlife factor in the idea that it exists according to a different set of physical laws in which these things wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: wyldeman007]
#8690629 - 07/27/08 10:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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1. Only if survival is a component of an ethereal dimension.
2. Only if the parallels between the physical world and the ethereal dimension are strong enough.
3. I have no idea.
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8694307 - 07/28/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What can we even suppose about an afterlife? Are there certain taboos that prevent us from asking certain questions? The simplest explanation of an afterlife is for me, one that is analogous to this one, a simple continuance of consciousness. With that on the table do only conscious beings carry over? What are the rules of admission in this so called afterlife?
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: wyldeman007]
#8694716 - 07/28/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What can we know philosophically about an afterlife? I'm not sure. What can we know spiritually about an afterlife? That would depend on a number of variables.
There are always taboos about everything.
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8696122 - 07/29/08 06:35 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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my opinion. you die. then theres darkness that you never know about. for eternity.
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: minnesotaftl]
#8698197 - 07/29/08 03:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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The simplest explanation of an afterlife is for me, one that is analogous to this one, a simple continuance of consciousness
Recently I've been thinking, though, that the memory is a physical thing. It dwells in the hippocampus of our brain. Perhaps our conciousness continues, but we would never remember our carnal life because the memory would die with the body.
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my opinion. you die. then theres darkness that you never know about. for eternity.
I sure hope that's not the case.
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 Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: pothead_bob]
#8698289 - 07/29/08 04:02 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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pothead_bob said:
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my opinion. you die. then theres darkness that you never know about. for eternity.
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I sure hope that's not the case.
Why....?
Sounds peaceful to me....
Don't even have to set an alarm clock.... 
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8698429 - 07/29/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why not living another life at the same time rather than after?
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8698445 - 07/29/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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PhanTomCat said:
Sounds peaceful to me....
Don't even have to set an alarm clock....
yeaa! tired of working! Wanna sleep.
Edited by clearsight (07/29/08 05:01 PM)
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8698451 - 07/29/08 04:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What can I say? I like my cognizance.
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upon mathematics or upon some other knowledge
which is itself based upon the mathematical
sciences. -Leonardo da Vinci (1425-1519)
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Re: The afterlife from an evolutionary biology lens... [Re: pothead_bob]
#8698474 - 07/29/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Easy to know wat is after death! it is the same as wat was before birth. Are you guys afraid of wat u were before birth?
I am pretty sure it was ok at the time 
Edited by clearsight (07/29/08 04:58 PM)
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