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OfflineRickFL239
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chaliponga preparation
    #8642060 - 07/16/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I will be soon consuming a chaliponga brew 30 minutes after ingesting an ethanol-based harmala extract.  I have 28 grams of foliage I ordered online, and I was wondering how long it must be boiled.  I was thinking of using all 28 grams, and boiling and straining three times, then simmering down, but I'm not sure how long this stuff has to be boiled, can anyone help me out with my technique?  This is my first DMT preparation.

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Re: chaliponga preparation [Re: RickFL239]
    #8642156 - 07/16/08 11:17 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

The few times I've made brews I spent several hours doing all the boilings.  I've also heard people say that they don't spend any more than about an hour preparing a brew.  It really just depends on your personal preferences.  It's the kind of thing that you get better at with practice.

For example, so far I've always made 2 separate brews.  Usually 1 brew is caapi and the other is with chacruna.  But I may start just brewing both plants into the same brew, using a little more and then just drink half of the brew a while after the other half.  Should work just as well and you only have 1 brew to worry about which should mean less prep time.

Or I guess I could just be smart like you and use an extracted maoi.:grin:

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Re: chaliponga preparation [Re: truffleupagus]
    #8642288 - 07/16/08 11:50 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

yeah dont boil btw a sub boil. it should simmer just below that. that method you said sounds fine do each straining 30-45 min. i personally dont brew like that anymore but did when i started im not gona say its bad or doesnt work well im just saying i dont do it like that anymore.

personally i like it all in one brew and for when intiating people giving them rue before hand


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Re: chaliponga preparation [Re: thedudenj]
    #8646452 - 07/17/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

thx for the replies.  So you are saying it's best if I boil it at a lower boil/simmer for like an hour or two or so, straining and reboiling around 3 times?  And would 150-200mg of harmala alkaloids along with the full 28g of chaliponga be enough to get a worthy experience?  I've seen much higher recommendations for chacruna, but I know chaliponga has a higher DMT content.

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Re: chaliponga preparation [Re: RickFL239]
    #8646639 - 07/17/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

chaliponga has 5-meo-dmt in it as well which kinda over shines the dmt most people dont like 5-meo. i read somewhere south american shamans that use viridis dont like chaliponga using ones and the toad venom using ones dont like either of those ones. Me personally i use what the person im healing calls for, for the most part.  My key rule to brewing is dont let it bubble. Constantly stir it give prayer and asking for the spirit to shine upon you. As for using the harmala you on your own for that i use vine or rue


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Re: chaliponga preparation [Re: thedudenj]
    #8647304 - 07/17/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Isn't harmala the same thing as syrian rue?


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Re: chaliponga preparation [Re: deCypher]
    #8647351 - 07/17/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

yeah but as far as dosing goes i know how much of my bag of rue seed i need to eat or vine to put in as opposed to how much crystals to eat


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