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The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke
    #8620936 - 07/11/08 09:22 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Asante]
    #8622791 - 07/11/08 05:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Instant temporary stroke, just add :mushroom2: ....

"These are the we inside of me"....
Please step to the right hemisphere....


Interesting....


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Asante]
    #8623207 - 07/11/08 07:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, I've never seen a scientist moved to tears.

So the left and right brains do function differently.
Whoever said that's been debunked is wrong.

Thanks for sharing that.

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Middleman]
    #8623375 - 07/11/08 08:25 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

it would seem only logical then that mushrooms would affect the right side of the brain more than the left. i wonder if that is true, or if it has ever been examined.

what she described seemed a lot like an ego death, minus some semantics. and when she was talking about the phone call to her office, it reminded me of ordering pizza hut every time i trip, lol.

good video :thumbup:

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Middleman]
    #8623416 - 07/11/08 08:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Middleman said:
So the left and right brains do function differently.
Whoever said that's been debunked is wrong.




I have never seen anyone say it was debunked, but for what it is worth, her descriptions seem to match up with the Wiki description....
Minus the "NOW" vs "Past & Future" descriptions she gave, and a few other little details....

From Wiki:  Brain Hemispheres

Left brain functions
sequential 
analytical
verbal
logical
linear algorithmic processing
mathematics: perception of counting/measurement
present and past
language: grammar/words, pattern perception, literal


Right brain functions
simultaneous
holistic
imagistic
intuitive
holistical algorithmic processing
mathematics: perception of shapes/motions
present and future
language: intonation/emphasis, prosody, pragmatic, contextual


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Asante]
    #8624254 - 07/12/08 02:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Very interesting...I would really like to hear an unabridged version...

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: fazdazzle]
    #8625099 - 07/12/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

She was already versed in Eastern Spiritual talk, otherwise I doubt she would have recognized or interpreted the experience as she did.  Maybe similarly.  Anyways, what a beautiful presentation!  So much insight.


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Asante]
    #8625402 - 07/12/08 01:02 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

excellent vid thanks for posting. :thumbup:

has anyone heard of split-brain syndrome?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_brain
wikipedia doesn't say too much about it but it's pretty interesting. essentially it occurs when your left and right brains cannot connect with each other and creates some strange phenomena.


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: CosmicFool]
    #8625584 - 07/12/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, it used to be purposefully given to people by cutting the corpus collosum, which connects the two hemispheres.  They would do this to keep epilepsy from spreading over to the other side.  Then they started finding undesirable results.


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #8625983 - 07/12/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You guys need to read Julian Jaynes' book "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind".

http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind/dp/0618057072/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215899368&sr=8-1


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #8627116 - 07/12/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

can some expand on this, If I heard her right she said its possible to willingly switch to the right side of her brain. how can this be done?

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
    #8627308 - 07/12/08 10:09 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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she said its possible to willingly switch to the right side of her brain. how can this be done?




By having a stroke....    :tongue:

She said that the possibility existed because she had experienced it thru the stroke, but didn't really say that she could do it now....    :thumbup:


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
    #8627679 - 07/13/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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ZackWyldeFan said:
can some expand on this, If I heard her right she said its possible to willingly switch to the right side of her brain. how can this be done?




I'll venture to guess that by gaining concentration through meditation, then using it to solely think about things like compassion, union, etc., and not think about the past, future, and other linear thought-forms, that you retrain the mind, habits, and brain to focus on right-brain activities.  By willingly, I don't think she meant immediately.


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
    #8628413 - 07/13/08 07:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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can some expand on this, If I heard her right she said its possible to willingly switch to the right side of her brain. how can this be done?




My question is:
if we were able to switch at will how many of us would switch back?


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: CosmicFool]
    #8628988 - 07/13/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

ZackWyldeFan said:
can some expand on this, If I heard her right she said its possible to willingly switch to the right side of her brain. how can this be done?



.
My question is:
if we were able to switch at will how many of us would switch back?




Maybe that's the effect of what happens when we dream and/or daydream....


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8715247 - 08/02/08 07:53 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Wow, that really was an amazing video.

I bookmarked it on youtube and just went back and watched it a little while ago.

That was 20 minutes well spent.  Thanks for posting that Wiccan!

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: truffleupagus]
    #8715770 - 08/02/08 10:52 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

it wouldn't be possible because we need to use the left side of the brain to go to the right and realize we are in the right. Its logic.


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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #8717885 - 08/02/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Penguarky Tunguin said:
You guys need to read Julian Jaynes' book "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind".

http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind/dp/0618057072/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215899368&sr=8-1




I never read the book but a friend of mine did and they gave me a pretty good run through of what Jayne's theory was and I thought it made a lot of sense. Makes me wanna go pick the book up myself now... thanks for the reminder. :laugh:

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: loveistruth]
    #8724780 - 08/04/08 02:40 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for sharing that, well worth the 18 minutes :smile:

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Re: The spiritual/psychedelic experience of having a massive stroke [Re: CosmicFool]
    #8725530 - 08/04/08 05:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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she said its possible to willingly switch to the right side of her brain. how can this be done?




just install a pair of momentary switches between the two hemispheres.



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