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CampingShroomer
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Cake yield?
#8597788 - 07/05/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey just curious to know if you think I could possibly get 10-12 grams (dry weight) off of two cakes? I am going camping next weekend and I figured with the three of us that are going would need at least 3-4 grams each for a nice trip. does that sound like too much to ask from two cakes? The one cake in the front is doing awesome...this will be the first flush and it looks like its going to be a beauty! The one behind only has about 6 large mushrooms...they are not as big as the one in front but it didnt start growing until a few days after the first one.
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numonkei
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Possible... cross your fingers.
They're going good.
And search.
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DJYoshaBYD
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Re: Cake yield? [Re: numonkei]
#8597834 - 07/05/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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maybe.. there are alot of other threads about this.. lol.. search button still works.. haha
more than likely, you wont.. you can always take the cake, out it in boiling water, turn off the heat, strain, and drink it.. I have made bottles of it for my friends out of spent cakes and substrates, and they have gotten pretty lit.. I have done it, as well, but do not prefer the taste..
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Grapefruit
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follow the lemon tek dude and there will be more than enough
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PowerOfTheCoir
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Re: Cake yield? [Re: numonkei]
#8597842 - 07/05/08 03:51 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Possible, but that may be a bit on the high end. They shrink a lot when drying. Hollow stems are also somewhat common and make a nasty surprise when they shrink down to nothing. (This is from many sad experiences)
You probably don't need quite that much to trip though. Just try to use a good ingestion method to get the most mileage out of what you end up finishing with. The finer the shrooms are chopped up or ground, the more available the actives will be. The basic tea recipe works really well and the Lemon tek will make 1-2 grams send you on a nice trip.
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beengonetoolong
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Easily 300 pounds.
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DJYoshaBYD
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I have actually made jello, coolaid, and a bunch of other shit that needs water, using the water from my "mushy tea".. you should just throw the whole yield in for tea, and split that....
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psylopsycho
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We did Jello shots before from boiled down cakes. No alcohol, only mush tea. Seemed to work really well for me.
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Brain Fart
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Hollow Stems are gay
/punch B+
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CampingShroomer
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Thanks for the comments! Do you'll think the pinheads that have black tips should be picked with the first flush? They dont seem to be growing. This is my first grow so I am looking for as much help as I can get.
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TheBandit
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you could always freeze them until whenever you plan on eating them, and eat them fresh. theyre more potent when fresh and all you have to do is divide by ten. want a 3.5g trip? eat 35g fresh. you prolly wont need as much with fresh. IMHO
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beengonetoolong said: Easily 300 pounds.
Crap. That's dry I hope...
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Freezing fresh mushies reduces them to black goo, from what I hear. This is not from experience, just from reading.
And yes, a tea might increase desired effects. However, this is achieved because water allows a more rapid delivery of the active chemicals. A more rapid absorption results in a shorter experience.
Either way have fun and be safe.
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Edited by Ledd (07/07/08 03:51 PM)
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PowerOfTheCoir
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beengonetoolong said: Easily 300 pounds.
You've got to stop spreading this type of misinformation. This is the reason that noobs get so confused on this site.
300 pounds is the total per cake yield for ALL OF THE FLUSHES COMBINED and it only applies to Golden Teacher.
As we all know, B+ is a genetically modified cross-breed of a cubensis and a azure. This results in much larger fruits, so B+ reliably yields between 382 lbs and 396 lbs over the life of one cake. Yield goes down each flush, so B+ will look like (per cake):
1st Flush = 121 lbs 2nd = 81 lbs 3rd = 80 lbs 4th = 60 lbs 5th = 40 lbs and if you're lucky, you'll get a 6th flush 6th = 14lbs
Don't spawn B+ to straw though. One noob on this site spawned a cake to a 2 foot long straw log. He left the plastic wrapper on the log and stood it up vertically. He then picked off every pinhead that formed for a month until he finally let one survive. The substrate put all of it's energy into one giant 300+ lb shroom which killed him when it dumped thousands of football sized spores on his head.
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Redthunder25
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Hey man, to be honest. A foaf had a amazonian cake and I heard 10 grams wet f'ed him up pretty good. They say wet is a way better high. He of course usually eats 7g's dry but wet is certainly more potent. At least from his experience.
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beengonetoolong
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Quote:
PowerOfTheCoir said:
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beengonetoolong said: Easily 300 pounds.
You've got to stop spreading this type of misinformation. This is the reason that noobs get so confused on this site.
300 pounds is the total per cake yield for ALL OF THE FLUSHES COMBINED and it only applies to Golden Teacher.
As we all know, B+ is a genetically modified cross-breed of a cubensis and a azure. This results in much larger fruits, so B+ reliably yields between 382 lbs and 396 lbs over the life of one cake. Yield goes down each flush, so B+ will look like (per cake):
1st Flush = 121 lbs 2nd = 81 lbs 3rd = 80 lbs 4th = 60 lbs 5th = 40 lbs and if you're lucky, you'll get a 6th flush 6th = 14lbs
Don't spawn B+ to straw though. One noob on this site spawned a cake to a 2 foot long straw log. He left the plastic wrapper on the log and stood it up vertically. He then picked off every pinhead that formed for a month until he finally let one survive. The substrate put all of it's energy into one giant 300+ lb shroom which killed him when it dumped thousands of football sized spores on his head.
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wasting_space
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Normally you should get anywhere between 1 to 4 dry grams off of one cake per flush... (Of course this amount could change whether or not plutonium was added to the substrate material)
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Quote:
PowerOfTheCoir said:
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beengonetoolong said: Easily 300 pounds.
You've got to stop spreading this type of misinformation. This is the reason that noobs get so confused on this site.
300 pounds is the total per cake yield for ALL OF THE FLUSHES COMBINED and it only applies to Golden Teacher.
As we all know, B+ is a genetically modified cross-breed of a cubensis and a azure. This results in much larger fruits, so B+ reliably yields between 382 lbs and 396 lbs over the life of one cake. Yield goes down each flush, so B+ will look like (per cake):
1st Flush = 121 lbs 2nd = 81 lbs 3rd = 80 lbs 4th = 60 lbs 5th = 40 lbs and if you're lucky, you'll get a 6th flush 6th = 14lbs
This is, of course, if you're doing everything just right.
Dude, I'm pissing my pants over here....
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CampingShroomer
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Last night I tripped harder than I ever have before off of 15 grams (wet) of the shrooms you see in my pic at the top. My girl had the same amount. I have to tell you that I must be doing something right cuz these are potent little devils. I have taken twice as much as that before and not tripped near as hard...seriously I didn't even know you could trip that hard. For a about an hour I didn't know if I could handle it...and I have tripped several times before. The whole fucking room was pulsing and breathing in and out. Faces on the fucking walls. I have heard of people having crazy visuals but I just thought they were bullshit liars. It appears they weren't. If I had to describe it I would say it was a level 5 trip.
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PowerOfTheCoir
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CampingShroomer said: Last night I tripped harder than I ever have before off of 15 grams (wet) of the shrooms you see in my pic at the top. My girl had the same amount. I have to tell you that I must be doing something right cuz these are potent little devils. I have taken twice as much as that before and not tripped near as hard...seriously I didn't even know you could trip that hard. For a about an hour I didn't know if I could handle it...and I have tripped several times before. The whole fucking room was pulsing and breathing in and out. Faces on the fucking walls. I have heard of people having crazy visuals but I just thought they were bullshit liars. It appears they weren't. If I had to describe it I would say it was a level 5 trip.
Is it possible to grow super-shrooms? Sure. Multispore varies wildly. Usually MS grows produce genetically average fruits due to the "averaging" effect of anamastosis (sp?), but like any normal curve, there are going to be some outliers. Some people get a bunch of duds, you seem to have gotten lucky and been somewhere on the other end of the spectrum.
Is it possible to DELIBERATELY produce super shrooms? Only with cloning or, even better, isolation on agar. With those methods you need to do a lot of guessing and failing though. You don't know the potency until the fruit is grown and eaten, so you would need to clone samples from fruits before consumption in the hopes that they might be potent. With isolates from spore swipes, you'd need to isolate a bunch of strains to find one that will produce something great.
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