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 Garden_of_Eden
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 Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... 
#8536288 - 06/18/08 06:02 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory, railroad creeper, and mile-a-minute vine, are all names given to the genus Ipomoea cairica. Which also is known as Ipomoea palmata, Ipomoea stipulacea and Ipomoea tuberculata.
Yes! A lot of names for one plant.
I have it growing in my garden and it does indeed grow a "mile-a-minute".
The plant has stamen, but from as far as i can see it does not have any seeds.
Does anyone here have any experience with the psychedelic properties of this genus?
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dstark
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: Garden_of_Eden]
#8536414 - 06/18/08 07:56 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I growing now morning glory but as i heard the potent seeds are from blue flowers...
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: dstark]
#8536556 - 06/18/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Potency has little to do with the color of the flowers.
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felixhigh
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: Garden_of_Eden]
#8537116 - 06/18/08 01:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi Garden_of_Eden, we have loads of these Ipomoea cairica growing here in Brazil as well.
I´m not aware that it has any special attributes.
I´ve noticed you´re new here, please take a little time to read the rules of the garden ok? Have a nice time.
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Garden_of_Eden
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: felixhigh]
#8539644 - 06/19/08 04:22 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi Felix
You have some spectacular pictures in your gallery!
Studies are inconclusive about the alkaloids in I. cairica - one said 0% (Amor-Prats & Harborne, 1993) another said 0.009% (Geetha et al., 1986)
Although varying amounts of ergolines have been discovered in a number of native Ipomoeas (inc. argillicola, costata, diamantinensis, muelleri) I haven't read any papers that give a full breakdown of the individual alkaloids involved. So it's debatable if any are safe to ingest.
It might be included in this paper:
[MOD EDIT: felix asked you to please look over the rules and in your next post you posted a non sponsor link which is against the rules. again please read over the rules and follow them. thank you
It would be very interesting to learn about people who have actually put this matter to the test. Either by consumption or by extraction of the LSA of I. Cairica.
Edited by royer9864 (07/22/08 08:20 AM)
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: felixhigh]
#8666850 - 07/22/08 08:16 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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It would be great to get some more info on this plant!
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plainswalker
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: Garden_of_Eden]
#8667117 - 07/22/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most plants are very under-researched. Most people are quite fat and happy with the already-proven plants, a sentiment I do not share. I doubt you will find more infomation on this plant just because there probably isn't any more infomation out there.
Odds are that the seeds and plants are weakly active. Just how weakly active is the question I would think. Seeds are most likely safer than the plant. The fresher, the better. Old material shouldn't be bothered with. Safety is unknown but it's probably not dangerous.
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: plainswalker]
#8687313 - 07/27/08 05:57 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Seeds are most likely safer than the plant. The fresher, the better.
Hi and thank you for your reply. The thing is as well with this plant, it doesn't have any seeds.
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: Garden_of_Eden]
#8687636 - 07/27/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I noticed you said it has stamen but no seeds. Seeds are actually produced inside the ovary of the flower in chambers called locules inside the ovules. I guarantee you it will produce seeds. It's just a matter of time.
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: Mankey]
#8691279 - 07/28/08 03:52 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi, thanks for that.
If been looking inside the flower and turned it inside out. There's two small dots in there where the powder is on. But they're not hard as you would expect seeds to be. And they're tiny. Can that be it?
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plainswalker
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Re: Messina creeper, coast morning glory, Cairo morning glory.... [Re: Garden_of_Eden]
#8691539 - 07/28/08 08:15 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, after the flower is pollenated the petals should fall off and a seedpod should form. Once the pod is ripe and brown, then the seeds should be ripe.
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