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Asante
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Near Death Experience - had one? want one?
#8514554 - 06/12/08 09:26 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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After my near-fatal heart attack in december 2002 I had to adjust to the reality that I might die at any time. There are close calls every year, and every year and a half or so I end up on Acccidents & Emergencies for some reason or another related to it.
I take a bunch of heart drugs a day (the side effects of which pwn me) and always I have a bottle of sublingual nitro within arm's reach (holding it now) to try save my life if that moment comes.
In case of a massive heart attack, it won't do me any good ofcourse, I'd just keel over and God takes over from there.
Many of you are going ZOMG 2012 but quite frankly I'd be grateful if I lived to see 2012. Hell, every New Year I practically blow up my neighborhood with fireworks in utterly grateful celebration that I lived to see another year.
When you gotta go, you gotta go, but until that time I DON'T WANNA
I had whats called a Waking Near Death Experience at the ICU, but I never got to the salvation, all is well experience that washes away your fears.
If I could get a celestial guarantee that it would not shorten my life expectancy or negatively affect my longterm health, I would go to the hospital now, they could prep me and then stop my heart for 2 minutes before bringing me back, so that the process of the Near Death Experience I went through in 2002 can come to a resolve. If they are guaranteed to bring me back in one piece, I'd let them kill me dead for 2 minutes or as long as they could keep me on the Other Side without damaging me.
I'm pretty motivated to have a NDE, provided I won't stay there.
So I'm wondering... Did any of you have a NDE? No trip reports, people who've actually been dead and brought back. Know of a good Experiences site to explore? Would you let yourself be killed and brought back to experience the Other Side?
Discuss.
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Edited by Asante (06/12/08 09:30 AM)
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8514960 - 06/12/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8514981 - 06/12/08 11:41 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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flatliner hippy crap
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8514990 - 06/12/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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lets play the choking game?
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8515166 - 06/12/08 12:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think dying has gotta be easy and peaceful no matter how you go. Sure it might be pure agony, hell and terror for the main, but right at the end... when the struggle ends... it must be bliss. Just giving up and relaxing and just going. I don't think it would be celestial.
I remember seeing a documentary about the Beslam tragedy and a woman talking about her NDE after an explosion hit her. She just said dying would have been easy. So, so easy. The way she said it, it struck me really hard. We just go. We don't go through any tunnels or make our peace with God or have any big revelation. We just die.
I don't believe in an afterlife, and have no desire for an NDE.
Could you explain yours if you wouldn't mind? Or point me to a previous thread if you already have. I'm sorry for your situation Don't go fucking leaving us for a long time yet
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8515175 - 06/12/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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i imagine death being exactly like sleeping.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Atheist]
#8515176 - 06/12/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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except for dreams duhh
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Atheist]
#8515270 - 06/12/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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35ft fall onto hard packed sand, and then rolled unconscious into a deep ass spring....that was a shitty day.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Atheist]
#8515348 - 06/12/08 01:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've been thinking about my death, and what I want to happen.
I think something profound and important happens during and after, but what that is, is in the realm of mystery. I'll probably have my innings, then when I don't want to live anymore (or if, if I am still enjoying myself and not senile at 90, then hell, four more years please!) then it's heroin and nitrous for me.
I don't want any death experience apart from the ego death, and even that's difficult. That world is not something I'd go to such extremes to find out.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Atheist]
#8515464 - 06/12/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Atheist said: i imagine death being exactly like sleeping.
i guess it would be similar to the feeling i had before being born...
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: hetfield]
#8515504 - 06/12/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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yup, exact same thing.
absolute nothingness.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8515748 - 06/12/08 02:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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k, for all you people who have ever wondered what happens after you die, you need to read this page. it is a collection of exceptional near death experiences chosen from thousands that have been submitted to this particular website. bookmark this page and over time try to read them all (you have to click on 'expanded english version' for each one to see the whole thing). there's about 50 main ones and a whole bunch more at the bottom. as you get into them, you will begin to get AMAZING new insight into what to expect when you die. the time i have spent researching this topic has dissipated every drop of fear i ever had about death and has actually made me excited about the day it arrives. check it out if you are drawn towards this type of info.
Exceptional Near Death Experiences
edit: there are some lame/long ones depending on the skills of the writer, just skip over any that don't interest you.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Scratcher]
#8516053 - 06/12/08 03:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I almost killed myself in a Jeep Rollover accident. I don't think I'd ever want to relive that, watching everything get crushed, and spin around, the world in chaos. It's terrifying.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Atheist]
#8516398 - 06/12/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Atheist said: yup, exact same thing.
absolute nothingness.
I doubt that. For a start, I can't be presumptious enough to say I know what occurs during birth and death.
Chemically there's the whole rush of DMT each time, what a profound experience! And considering the magical properties of this molecule, it's a reality filter.
People dying spontaniously make large doses of DMT, changing a lot of reality. What's that all about? What purpose does that serve?
It's one of those mysteries that'll be answered to me in time. My only regret is I will not be able to share the knowledge.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8516451 - 06/12/08 05:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chemically there's the whole rush of DMT each time, what a profound experience! And considering the magical properties of this molecule, it's a reality filter.
Sorry, I have to slam the reality filter down on that one. The DMT story is just an idea a scientist had to sneak his pet molecule into the Death Experience. This scientist then autopsied several people and looked in the pineal glands for DMT and DMT metabolites. There were exactly zero found.
There is no evidence whatsoever that DMT being involved in the Birth & Death events is anything more than an idea a guy had.
Yes, I was very disappointed too when I found this out.
But it may even be better than a DMT party waiting for you. Whatever the NDE is, it seems to take place while there is no brain activity. This backs up the many many stories of being pure consciousness and actually leaving the body.
There is a possibility NDE people are having conscious experiences while the brain is out which could mean we have immaterial, conscious souls and the brain is but a computer.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8516504 - 06/12/08 05:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is going in a good direction; What is consciousness? Do we have a soul?
I'm going to side with Alan Watts on this one; the consciousness is 'our' body (or moreover we are a body).
I had an interesting breakthrough about death whilst on DMT, only it was about birth.. I was back inside my mothers womb and all I could hear was that primal rhythm and felt complete and utter tranquility and love.
Recently whilst on acid I contemplated death.. I can't remember the conclusion I came to (I chatted a whole bunch of shit), but it was definitely very profound and significant at that point in time (at least to me).
Death fascinates and unnerves me at the same time. I imagine it to be like the first time you get the courage up to try dmt (the fascinated yet scared shitless feeling, followed by complete and utter bliss).. the feeling of reality seeping away into that blank space and then exploding.
I'm curious, how old are you?
And also, I think we need to hear more indepth about your experience .
I don't think anyone should live in fear of death, the whole notion is absolutely ridiculous
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Asante]
#8516519 - 06/12/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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That being said, DMT is easy to get, and much less scary than almost dying.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8516815 - 06/12/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I once did 300-400mg of 5meo-DIPT, 15-20mg klonopin, 100-150mg valium, and a bunch of barbutiates. Then I decided I needed to jump into our giant camp fire in order to cleanse myself. Its actually pretty hard to kill yourself with a fire, but thats the closest ive come to death.
These days I just use opiates and alcohol in moderation.
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
#8516883 - 06/12/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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bout six years ago I was on the way back from seven eleven with a friend on a pretty wide road, looking down theres a motorcyclist riding one of those kawasaki looking ninja bikes speeding up.
I walk to the left and he lines up with me, so i get this idea in my head that we're playing chicken, he still coming up now he's prolly 100 feet away and he hasnt moved has to be goin 40 mph i get down in a stance as my friend is still kinda walkin but hes bout 5 10 feet from my right
closer, loader this guys really moving, there about 15 ft when i FINNALY decide to jump, goin bout 90 degrees i land facing the side of the road
the guy is still goin and im watchin as he rides away thinkin LOL, til he turns around, i think hes goin to say what up but instead i get a pissed off man questionin wtf?!, i dont remember what i said prolly some smart/stupid ass shit to say lol but i didnt really think of dying there tho lookin back if he had moved or i was slow with it id def be fucked up hospital status if i didnt have any track marks on my head
Last spring(07) i was convinced i was gonna die on some potent ass E, hadnt really tripped before but about 4 hours in the world litterally starts fallin apart after me and my friends have been mind fucking each other ever since we started tripping ROYALLY, if i hadnt been so non chalant about shit i think it woulda gone different basically insteada poppin off at bitties i rolled around thinkin im DRUGZ!? seeing with my eyes closed in shyt, dare devil status you know with the blue outlines, so anyway like i said now we've left the site and its jus me and my two boys blazin mad Ls i wanted to call it a night but my friend wouldnt let me cuz no matter how sober i was, explaining to him didnt do anything, he was convinced we would trip until mourn well when things in my vision decided to spin vortex/galaxy style i just thought oh shyt
"yea i dunt think their is LSD in these but their is prolly something similar.."
"wtf?>lol"
so now that ive realized i have every drug known to man circulating in my body i start falling BAD, i get to the point were im trippin balls off but im not sayin shit besides "ahh, uhhh, ohh" like my brain jus turned off or somthin, people talking mad shit and im jus chillin in the back thinkn...
meanwhile my friends are still talking shit like give a fuck, im tight about it but the next second im jus lookin at the fuckin whirlpool tunnel in the corner, so now that my friends have been replaced by extraterristrial shit talkers im jus rollin around tryna figure my way out, things get easier as we deem if you close your eyes you can see a weed leaf, or whatever you want, but at that point im too freaked out to keep my eyes clothes but i can still kinda imagine what i saw
so anyway we're a quarter deep and im just like fuck it im done so i start thinking too myself again, its like my thoughts are out LOUD im thinkin of all these storys were people die from E and my heart is beating like it is now but im TRIPPIN out like "AHHHG"
i completely forgot bout this til awhile ago but i figured i was gonna die that night, wether metaphorically or physically i was sure of it so i deemed it would be a wise descsion to sell my soul, yes exchange my soul for more time on earth, i dunno who i was thinkin too but i thought it, then i thought id be on some undercover shit to get into heaven then i thought wait if i sell my soul to satan id be GAY!? so i deemed that the one i sold my soul too was female, i kinda thought a red bitch would look kinda sexy, fuggin succubus' anyway after my friends managed to rip me a new asshole i managed to scare the crap outta them cuz it was now then that i felt comfortable to talk... yea after i made my pact, tho i dunno if that was the last thing i arrived at cuz i COMPLETLY forgot about it up until bout seven months ago, it kinda scared the crap outta me. anyway we moved past that day and laughed it off, but i still get props for being a complete mindfuck to people so all i can do is not sign any contracts i guess and pray im on the winning side, tho id rather go with something a little more out there like One universe one time or something spiritual not involving secret agents and rapture
weird fucking times we live in
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Re: Near Death Experience - had one? want one? [Re: Druggie04]
#8516889 - 06/12/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is weird because I was wondering something similar just yesterday. I wonder just how many people have died for a bit and then came back? I know I did. Sort of the same story. In 2005 I had a heart-attack and a stroke. Actually they believe I had several small heart attacks and strokes in succession. The stroke was caused by clots, and I was brought into surgery. They cut into my carotid to remove "five gray colored blood clots". I died on the table for 5 mins, 25 sec, according to my medical record. At the time this happened, I was 32. All I can remember is ultimate darkness. No feeling of being hot or cold. Just darkness. Oh, and the only drugs found in my system were weed and xanax. Neither were the cause. Just mt .02
Oh, and being the only person in cardiac rehab under the age of 50 seriously sucked. And if I had to chose, I'll take a heart attack over a stroke any day. My right hand was totally useless for months afterward. Luckily I'm a lefty. I still have a hard time typing and my right pinky always feels like it's asleep. It also doesn't move very much.
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