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mutant? lumps instead of pins <<<<<now with pics>>>>> * 1
    #8507136 - 06/10/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

just got home from work to find the cake covered in lups insead of pins (look like tey are made ou fo the same stuff as pins but aint pins)

so a few questions(this is the first flush for these cakes)
will these cakes develop pins or will it be lumps all the way

will the whole syringe produce these lumps

will it stay all mutated on all flushes

how do you know when to pick these lumps and can i dry them in the same way as usual

thx

Edited by kevkaos (06/11/08 11:34 AM)

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins [Re: kevkaos]
    #8507308 - 06/10/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

It's a total guess, but maybe the lumps will form dark heads in the next 24hrs.  I had some pins form on a tub before I initiated fruiting conditions, and they were like little fingers, but with no pinheads on them, for the first 24.


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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins [Re: abica]
    #8507312 - 06/10/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

cool thats poss, they just seem real big
would be cool if thats the case cos that would mean they would be propa fat

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins [Re: kevkaos]
    #8510510 - 06/11/08 08:40 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

pics




ok i know the pics aint great just hope you get the idea

these lumps have no head/cap and ain't really pin shapes more like small stones

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8510542 - 06/11/08 08:55 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

man i have been having shitty results with some cakes like that, though they are in a new FC im trying to regulate, casings in a good FC ive used for awhile.

Ive also got little "stone" like growths of mycelium on my cakes, no pins.

The FC fluctuates from 73-80 =/ im pretty sure their confused and keep growing, but really havnt done many cakes either...2nd flush of a cake is in there that was originally  in other FC, only has 1 mushroom as second flush :frown:

I figured even though it was reaching 80 degrees whenever i couldn't control it ( 2-3 hours before i wake up ) when i could drop it to around a constant 72-74 for a full day that it wouldn't matter and that my damn fungus would get the idea.

P.S. i'm impatient, im used to fast fruiting, its been 8 days on the cakes. My casings take 4 days to see pina colada flavored nerds ( thats white for all you who don't buy the multi colored nerds )

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: blindguy114]
    #8510619 - 06/11/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok found some pics in another post that better shows what im talking about





(he didnt get any answers )

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8510627 - 06/11/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Okay nevermind, with that clarity i can tell that is nothing like what i got haha. I've just got fluffly white bumps that are about that size but are just clumps of mycelium growth.

That.... That just looks like its growing headless mushrooms, it may be a retard?

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: blindguy114]
    #8511378 - 06/11/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

anyone????

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511400 - 06/11/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Those are cancer emitting orbs. Soon they will detach themselves from the cakes, and float around your living area doing what they do best- emitting cancer radiation.

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #8511408 - 06/11/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

If it is just fluffy mycelium clumps, then it sounds like humidity could be too high or they are just getting ready to pin. But in those pictures it looks like a bunch of mutated pins.

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: Jrsxt]
    #8511556 - 06/11/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i was thinking mutated pins
it prob cancer tho lol
just wanted some opinions cos it was on two cakes
cheers folk

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511692 - 06/11/08 03:00 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Blistering happens sometimes.  You didn't give any information on your growing conditions, such as light, air exchange and humidity.  Usually, correcting problems in those three areas will get your cakes flushing.
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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8511744 - 06/11/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

humidity is controlled by 5inch of perlite ain't got a hydrometer
air exchange is controlled by fanning 4-6 times a day although im at work so it can be 8hrs between  first and second fan (have lots of holes in tank tho) temp wasn't great last week as we had bad weather, light is controlled by time of day

ain't had any problems with my other cakes

one thing it could be now i think about it the perlite has been in there for about 3 weeks could this be the problem?

if so should i re hydrate the perlite (take it out and re soak it or should i buy some more

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511760 - 06/11/08 03:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm, might be early signs of dormant mold?

Sometimes those mutants uncurl after a few days and become HUGE humpback fruits. I'd watch those cakes a little closer, but you'll probably be fine.

Are you misting at all, holes in the FC? The FAE sounds good, 5" of perlite should be plenty.




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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: numonkei]
    #8511764 - 06/11/08 03:21 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah mist about 3 times a day morning/noon/night

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8511775 - 06/11/08 03:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm... yeah, probably keep an eye on them for discoloration. This might not the be problem, but sometimes excess mutants has been an early sign of mold, in my experience.

Are you using, what, a shotgun FC?




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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: numonkei]
    #8511781 - 06/11/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

yeah shotgun with a clear bag as a lid

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8516320 - 06/12/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok these growths/mutants/blisters are getting bigger

have re hydrated the perlite and am starting to see pins(well a pin)

my question is should i pick theses growths off or should i let them mature?

will my next flush be the same or will it improve now  i have re hydrated the perlite

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: kevkaos]
    #8595322 - 07/04/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

could blisters form in the jar and almost looking like a wedge from a circle?

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Re: mutant? lumps instead of pins --how with pics [Re: milkman]
    #8595499 - 07/04/08 04:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i've had this problem with several grows when using MS.  Mostly happened when i grew golden teachers.  Never got the fuckers to fruit, the lumps just ended up yellowing and hardening up.


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