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Fruiting Chamber Humidity
    #8484913 - 06/04/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The humidity in my friends fruiting chamber is 98%. The 50/50 plus casing TEK says for it to be between 82% and 92%. Is the extra few percents going to hurt anything significantly?


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8484964 - 06/04/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

no


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: tahoe]
    #8484973 - 06/04/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Cool


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8485052 - 06/04/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

just as long as FAE is kept up.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: P.Menace]
    #8485284 - 06/04/08 08:37 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

ok... here's what you need to understand.

A casing, has a similiar need for rH during the pin initiation process to a cake. 95-98%

Once your pins have started across the whole casing (When you can see the beginning of an even pinset). Drop the rH down to 88-92% This will give more oxygen to the fruits and enable them to grow faster, with less chance for bacterial blotch and other contaminants that are common issues with a high rH.

after 3-7 days (dependant on FAE) harvest everything, even the small ones (usually aborts). Make sure to leave the small white knots and pinheads, as this is the beginning of your second flush.

Sumberge in water with about 8-10% hydrogen peroxide (from pharmacy) added to it. Let soak for 12 hours and re-introduce to FC.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: weretheshit]
    #8485958 - 06/04/08 10:59 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Do you really bother to dunk with h202? Why?


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: weretheshit]
    #8486902 - 06/05/08 04:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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weretheshit said:
ok... here's what you need to understand.

A casing, has a similiar need for rH during the pin initiation process to a cake. 95-98%

Once your pins have started across the whole casing (When you can see the beginning of an even pinset). Drop the rH down to 88-92% This will give more oxygen to the fruits and enable them to grow faster, with less chance for bacterial blotch and other contaminants that are common issues with a high rH.

after 3-7 days (dependant on FAE) harvest everything, even the small ones (usually aborts). Make sure to leave the small white knots and pinheads, as this is the beginning of your second flush.

Sumberge in water with about 8-10% hydrogen peroxide (from pharmacy) added to it. Let soak for 12 hours and re-introduce to FC.

Have fun.




I'm interested in the dunk process myself. Wouldn't create too much saturation?

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: alex101]
    #8486926 - 06/05/08 04:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

its not the over saturation... that cant happen unless you leave it too long... and i mean way too long.
the issue on your dunk is the H202...
It has not been proven to help, as much as hamper...

Id like to know more myself.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: P.Menace]
    #8487335 - 06/05/08 07:37 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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just as long as FAE is kept up.




Sorry for the Noob question: But what does FAE mean?


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8487341 - 06/05/08 07:39 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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just as long as FAE is kept up.




Sorry for the Noob question: But what does FAE mean?




Fresh Air exchange, AKA fanning.

You need to maintain a good balance between very high humidty )95%-98%) and FAE (fanning several times per day).


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: P.Menace]
    #8487359 - 06/05/08 07:43 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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its not the over saturation... that cant happen unless you leave it too long... and i mean way too long.
the issue on your dunk is the H202...
It has not been proven to help, as much as hamper...

Id like to know more myself.




Just to be clear, are you saying that you approve of the dunking method, but not of the addition of the H202?


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8487366 - 06/05/08 07:45 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

pretty much...


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8487368 - 06/05/08 07:46 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Just to be clear, are you saying that you approve of the dunking method, but not of the addition of the H202?




If you just dunk under running water, you will greatly reduce your contamination rate, and you won't hinder the good mycelium either.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: P.Menace]
    #8487373 - 06/05/08 07:47 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

When dunking, is it necessary to take the casing out of the case, and then dunk it? Or does a person just leave it in the case and dunk the whole thing.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8487376 - 06/05/08 07:48 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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When dunking, is it necessary to take the casing out of the case, and then dunk it? Or does a person just leave it in the case and dunk the whole thing.




It doesn't really matter. The main issue is that your substrate will want to float to the surface, so you need something heavy to weigh it down.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: Neobean]
    #8487540 - 06/05/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Here's an example (I think you're running trays, but this might help you with the concept)

You know how rubbermaid tubs "nest" into each other, like in the store on the shelf?

Well I read one monotub dunking tek that involved putting a rubbermaid into the monotub and inverting the assembly. The substrate came out on top of the second tub's bottom, like a pedestal.

Hmm, I don't know where I'm going with this, just a thought since you were talking about removing the substrate from something.

Also, one of the important things when dunking any sort of large substrate is to not end up with water pooled in the bottom of your container.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: abica]
    #8487614 - 06/05/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

That's what I was worried about; water pooled at the bottom of the container. I have been thinking about it htough and think that is pretty easy to get around. I don't really want to take anything out of the case because I have a modified tin foil kind of a thing, and it would be a pain in the rear end. All I have to do though is poke a hole in the bottom of the foil after the dunk to let out any pooled water, and then tape it back up.

That's what I dig about this place...so many helpful people with so many ideas. A guy really cant' help but succeed if he listens and thinks about what he hears here.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Humidity [Re: FugueRider]
    #8487657 - 06/05/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

drill holes in the bottom of the tub... and voila!


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