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 weiliiiiiii
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#8451082 - 05/27/08 03:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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[image]http://www.shroomery.o. -thumb_092_92.jpg[/image]  [/url ]        Found these today growing out of red clay soil near pine trees no print just took pics didnt pic any sorry i double posted sum picks im kinda over zealous oops
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weiliiiiiii
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Cool
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GGreatOne234
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Well, they look like a type of Macrolepiota to me. Maybe M. procera. They can be variable, I do not recall the correct terminology at the moment, just variable.
Check your books. Do a spore-print (as always). Those do not look like Chlorophyllum to me.
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Re: ID [Re: CureCat]
#8453310 - 05/27/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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so there edible hot damn im going back tomorrow and pickin them
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Okay, but only eat a small portion the first time and then wait a day, as some people are sensitive to certain mushrooms. Also make sure they don't have a green spore print(which would indicate C. molybdites). It should be white.
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Re: ID [Re: CureCat]
#8453448 - 05/28/08 12:31 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok thanx
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GGreatOne234
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weiliiii, certainly do a spore print and research them yourself. Trust your own ID, or a professional with the mushrooms in their own hands.
I would recommend to you, that you aquire more then just several field identification guides, and check all resources before consuming a new mushroom, as many guides will label different species differently and include extra data.
Don't trust a moderator just because they say it is "THIS" mushroom precisely. It's not. Again I forget the correct wording, but there are variations to Parasol mushrooms in the southeastern United States. And it would suck for a mushroomer to claim over the internet they know exactly what mushroom such as this a person has found.
I would recommend to you first getting Identifying Mushrooms to Genus I by Largent. Bessetts book about Southeastern Mushrooms. And Kimbroughs Common Florida Mushrooms... another one I have about southeastern mushrooms it skips my mind right now (I got it for a penny at amazon. buy all these books Used at amazon). Also the Texas mushroom book (of which i do not own). Top it off with the Audubon Society book, Psilocybian mushrooms of the world by stamets, and mushrooms demystified and you would have a solid enough library to get by without the shroomery.
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weiliiiiiii
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yeah thanx dude. I never eat a shroom unless i know for sure what it is i mean 110% for sure man. Im gonna go collect sum tomorrow and get a print then work from there but thanx for the concern dude.
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GGreatOne234
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Also, if you do not already know, always be careful when consuming a new species of edible mushroom for the first time. Only eat a couple bites to be on the safe side from poisoning and allergic reactions.
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weiliiiiiii
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Hehehe.
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Re: ID [Re: CureCat]
#8455404 - 05/28/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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curecat remember my old post with these? we thought they were something else
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The big difference is that you're in Australia, and weiliiiiii is in the US. The mushroom I suggested in your thread does not grow in North America.
But anyway, I'll withdraw my allegation of species, and say that M. procera is the most commonly reported species of Macrolepiota in the US, though this may be due to similar assumption. These fit the description of M. procera, but could be something else. You won't know without a microscope.
I am not aware of any inedible Macrolepiota species, and would try them myself had I found them.
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Quote:
GGreatOne234 said:
weiliiii, certainly do a spore print and research them yourself. Trust your own ID, or a professional with the mushrooms in their own hands.
I would recommend to you, that you aquire more then just several field identification guides, and check all resources before consuming a new mushroom, as many guides will label different species differently and include extra data.
Don't trust a moderator just because they say it is "THIS" mushroom precisely. It's not. Again I forget the correct wording, but there are variations to Parasol mushrooms in the southeastern United States. And it would suck for a mushroomer to claim over the internet they know exactly what mushroom such as this a person has found.
I would recommend to you first getting Identifying Mushrooms to Genus I by Largent. Bessetts book about Southeastern Mushrooms. And Kimbroughs Common Florida Mushrooms... another one I have about southeastern mushrooms it skips my mind right now (I got it for a penny at amazon. buy all these books Used at amazon). Also the Texas mushroom book (of which i do not own). Top it off with the Audubon Society book, Psilocybian mushrooms of the world by stamets, and mushrooms demystified and you would have a solid enough library to get by without the shroomery.
Simply awesome advice!
C. Molly is one of the easiest mushrooms to misidentify. Even grad mycology students of Orson Miller's have ended up in the hospital over it.
Lepiotas and their cousins scare me enough I've never eaten one. Just too risky. I always wonder what a parasol tastes like because it is said to be nummo.
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Good advice. Some of it, yes.
The parts I object to are as follows:
"weiliiii, certainly do a spore print and research them yourself. Trust your own ID, or a professional with the mushrooms in their own hands.
I would recommend to you, that you aquire more then just several field identification guides, and check all resources before consuming a new mushroom, as many guides will label different species differently and include extra data."
I trust weiliiii to do so anyway. I don't think I need to warn those whose common sense seems to be intact. He hunts and eats mushrooms with caution from what I have seen.
"Don't trust a moderator just because they say it is "THIS" mushroom precisely. It's not. Again I forget the correct wording, but there are variations to Parasol mushrooms in the southeastern United States. And it would suck for a mushroomer to claim over the internet they know exactly what mushroom such as this a person has found."
I have a couple qualms with this.
First, rather than saying "don't trust someone" he says "don't trust a moderator" (= myself in this context). He likes to follow me around the forum and criticize my posts. I would not make such an accusation if I saw him make the same critiques to other peoples posts, however that is not the case. Not consistently anyway. Personal grudges are a bummer.
The other issue is that I have read GGO give the same advice, saying "it is ____". I call it hypocrisy.
Aside from that, I have no problems with his advice, and would say he that he makes some rather good recommendations.
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I always wonder what a parasol tastes
Procera has a mild flavor similar to slightly mushroomy eggs. The texture of the stems is sort of twiggy, IMO not worth eating and there is not much meat on the caps once they are cooked, still worth the effort.
Rhachodes has an intense flavor that is close to the flavor of A. bisporus. This Rhachodes is pretty scary, neither of these edibles are a beginner mushroom, but I've found both green gills and Rhachodes in the same sort of habitat, Rhachodes in an old chicken coop with a dirt floor and green gills in the basement of a barn with a dirt floor.
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Re: ID [Re: falcon]
#8456186 - 05/28/08 05:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't care for the flavour of the related Chlorophyllum brunneum much at all. As Falcon said, the stipe was fibrous and unappetizing. A spore print will separate C. molybdites from other Parasols.
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