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Epigallo
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Government as a necessary evil.
#8261799 - 04/09/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread is about zest for life, compassion... harmony... unity.
Fuck the government!!
Why is it so exhilirating to see someone fight a global power?
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DieCommie
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Epigallo]
#8261851 - 04/09/08 09:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont know. I dont find it exhilarating. Fighting for freedom or equal rights is exhilarating though.
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: DieCommie]
#8262366 - 04/09/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I hate politics and government.
I only care about flowers.
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: appleorange]
#8262383 - 04/09/08 10:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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appleorange said: I hate politics and government.
I only care about flowers.
Check your PM's oliveorange.
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: GGreatOne234]
#8262469 - 04/09/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I respect my governor! Every day I make a duty of throwing some money, just tossing it, as if I were throwing it away...
Look at the upright governors on your money-bills, when I examine those faces Im always vexed, to think what that man is REALLY thinking. I find thier gazes to stir this up.
da evul psychik powa be flowin tru dat paypas there mon
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Epigallo]
#8264616 - 04/10/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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bradley said: This thread is about zest for life, compassion... harmony... unity.
Fuck the government!!
Why is it so exhilirating to see someone fight a global power?
You live at the govt's whim. Don't forget. Same with everyone.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8265416 - 04/10/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You live at the govt's whim. Don't forget. Same with everyone.
And...so what?
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: appleorange]
#8267642 - 04/11/08 01:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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appleorange said: I hate politics and government.
I only care about flowers.
fuck yeah!
have you ever seen a double rainbow?
-------------------- The best way to live is to be like water For water benefits all things and goes against none of them It provides for all people and even cleanses those places a man is loath to go In this way it is just like Tao ~Daodejing
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: dblaney]
#8268514 - 04/11/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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dblaney said:
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You live at the govt's whim. Don't forget. Same with everyone.
And...so what?
So what? I thought my point would have been obvious. You can't free live a free life and reject society/govt. Not unless you were willing to go naked into the wild and then run and hide out there.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8268583 - 04/11/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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hence the term, 'necessary evil'
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: krin]
#8268627 - 04/11/08 09:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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krin said: I respect my governor! Every day I make a duty of throwing some money, just tossing it, as if I were throwing it away...
Look at the upright governors on your money-bills, when I examine those faces Im always vexed, to think what that man is REALLY thinking. I find thier gazes to stir this up.
da evul psychik powa be flowin tru dat paypas there mon
That's basically it. One common exchange under God. It sort of mocks humanity to put the paper first. But government also does this. So government has one other than God first, so the paper is a mockery of the Divine.
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dblaney
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8268675 - 04/11/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can't free live a free life and reject society/govt. Not unless you were willing to go naked into the wild and then run and hide out there.
Well I guess that depends on how you define freedom. But I do see what you're getting at.
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: dblaney]
#8268714 - 04/11/08 09:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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To me freedom would be setting your own rules and being able to apply them without interference. And I know that ain't gonna happen.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8268746 - 04/11/08 10:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everyone loves and underdog.
"One does not form a dictatorship to safeguard a revolution, one instigates a revolution to install the dictatorship." -1984
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dblaney
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8268761 - 04/11/08 10:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Icelander said: To me freedom would be setting your own rules and being able to apply them without interference. And I know that ain't gonna happen.
To me that is not yet freedom. That would just be a state of affairs where there is little to hinder the expression of your will.
-------------------- "What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?" "Belief is a beautiful armor But makes for the heaviest sword" - John Mayer Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin. "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: dblaney]
#8268767 - 04/11/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So, what's freedom?
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Icelander
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: dblaney]
#8268772 - 04/11/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh I agree, i don't really believe freedom exists. We are bound by our human nature, the physical constraints of our environment and many other things.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8268826 - 04/11/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perhaps freedom is relative. If we look at the constraints we all have in common, and then compare the constraints we impose upon ourselves, we might see a continuum of more-free to less-free conditions.
IMO, freedom exists (or does not) between our ears, and outer constraints are irrelevant.
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: Icelander]
#8268875 - 04/11/08 11:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Icelander said: oh I agree, i don't really believe freedom exists. We are bound by our human nature, the physical constraints of our environment and many other things.
Yes, that's why the term freedom is only meaningful when we apply it to a specific thing... freedom from this or freedom from that.
Freedom from every influence or force is impossible and I don't think anybody is really looking for that.
-------------------- Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it. ~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Re: Government as a necessary evil. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#8268893 - 04/11/08 11:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Freedom from every influence or force is impossible and I don't think anybody is really looking for that.
Maybe it's because you're young. There is a time when some (me) want only that. Being in material existence is too restrictive now. I'm not going to off myself today but when the time comes I think it will be a relief.
"any day now, any way now, I shall be released"
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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