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flushme
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ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold
#8170726 - 03/20/08 08:15 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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so looks like this finanly got to this sorry for the crooked pic
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Craighead
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: flushme]
#8171181 - 03/20/08 10:25 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Man, that sucks.
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8171190 - 03/20/08 10:28 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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yeah but at least my small experiment failed before it happened to all of these
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Craighead
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: flushme]
#8171196 - 03/20/08 10:31 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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That's a close call.
Did you ever fix that mold problem anyway?
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8171237 - 03/20/08 10:39 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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no i dont even wanna look at it when i do my lungs start to hurt and i start getting paranoid and crazy and dont wanna breath ive clean so much of that shit up in this house that i dont even wanna touch that now ive educated myself about mold but wtf should i do
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: flushme]
#8171448 - 03/20/08 11:27 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Painters mask/Gas Mask, bleach, scrub brush I would imagine. Ah, check it.
===================================================== Q. What is the black mold that grows in bathrooms and basements? Is it harmful? How can one get rid of it?
A. There are a number of mold types/genera that are either black or gray in color or produce black pigments on the substrate that they are growing on. These include Cladosporium, Pithomyces, Stemphydium, Ulocladium, Aureobasidium, Alternaria, Memmoniella, and Stachybotrys. Stachybotrys and Memnoniella are the only black mold types that are known to produce mycotoxins, which produce a potential exposure hazard when infested materials are disturbed. Stachybotrys and Memnoniella infestations typically only occur on repeatedly wetted materials that contain cellulose. These include the paper on gypsumboard, cardboard, ceiling tile, cellulose insulation, wood, etc. If the black mold is growing on materials that do not contain cellulose, it is unlikely that either Stachybotrys or Memnoniella are present.
As you question suggests "black mold" growths are common in houses particularly in bathrooms and some materials in basements. The black mold that you may see growing on shower walls, and grouting on showers and bathtubs is unlikely to be Stachybotrys or Memnoniella. The food source in these cases is likely to be the film of soap that gradually builds up in these locations. Black mold can often be seen growing on painted ceilings above bathtub/showers as well as on shower curtains. Since these materials do not contain cellulose they are unlikely to be infested with Stachybotrys or Memnoniella.
The most common black mold found in "black mold" growths is Cladosporium. It is not known to pose any toxic hazard. It is the most common mold type found in air samples collected both indoors and outdoors. As such we are likely to be exposed to it all the time. Exposures to high levels of Cladosporium pose a risk of developing allergy or even asthma in highly sensitive individuals.
Other mold types, which may be present in "black mold" spots, include Ulocladium, Stemphylium, Pithomyces, Alternaria, Dresclera, and Aureobasium. None of these genera are known to produce mycotoxins, which cause a toxic hazard on exposure.
How can one get rid of a black mold infestation? That depends on the type of infestation it is, its size and location. Black mold growing on bath walls & ceilings can be treated with bleach (a cup to a gallon), and washed with a strong detergent. Walls & ceilings can be then repainted. Though the bleach will kill the mold, it may not remove the black pigment associated with it.
If black mold is growing on materials containing cellulose it is prudent not to disturb them until they are shown not to contain toxic mold types (see other Stachybotrys articles under the search function on this page). Samples can be taken with transparent sticky tape and analyzed by a laboratory providing microbiological analytical services.
If a black mold infestation on cellulose-containing materials proves negative, remove and discard (carefully) infested materials into heavy-duty plastic bags. Even exposures to non-toxic mold types poses a health risk (allergies and asthma), so that any mold related work should be conducted to minimize exposure to yourself & your family. Top
Contributed by Thad Godish, Ph.D. Natural Resources and Environmental Management Ball State University
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Craighead
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8171461 - 03/20/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Here's some more information. They mention a dehumidifier.
================================= Mold grows just about anywhere. A dehumidifier will help. You do first need to get rid of the mold you have. A 30% bleach to 70% water should work; if very persistent mix 50/50.
Another great to cure mold problems is air movement. A fan blowing on the mold will help. When the mold is gone keep a fan going in the affected room. I like a tower or 12" stand type of fan that oscilates.
I have used a fan in our bathroom to keep the mold out with great success. I do not mean a standard exhaust fan - I mean a fan blowing in the room - this works best. You of course also need a window or exhaust vent somewhere in a bathroom.
I have also used oscilating fans in my green house to keep mold off my plants. Circulating the air in a room goes a very long way towards ending mold problems.
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8171468 - 03/20/08 11:32 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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good info but ive read other stuff that is completly opposite of what this says
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: flushme] 1
#8171487 - 03/20/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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I asked my boss...Who was a handy man for years. Fucker is old as dirt.
He said to use half water half bleach, spray over it, let it dry for a bit then get a water sealer type paint and paint over the infected area.
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8171508 - 03/20/08 11:38 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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thats more like masking it cause when you wipe or spray w/ bleach your only killing whats on the outside and not what has colonized the interior
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: flushme]
#8171544 - 03/20/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Yellowpages.com? You might be able to find someone to come in and clean up for ya.
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8171564 - 03/20/08 11:46 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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thats cost $$ we'll see im broke and this aint my house
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: Craighead]
#8173804 - 03/20/08 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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Yellowpages.com? You might be able to find someone to come in and clean up for ya.
Mold ebatement cost $1000's. All they do is remove all thge moldy stuff, sand the wood down, spray bleach on the moldy areas, and then run a hepa until its dry and clean. It cost a shit load.
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: tahoe]
#8173805 - 03/20/08 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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tahoe said:
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Craighead said:
Yellowpages.com? You might be able to find someone to come in and clean up for ya.
Mold abatement cost $1000's. All they do is remove all thge moldy stuff, sand the wood down, spray bleach on the moldy areas, and then run a hepa until its dry and clean. It cost a shit load.
-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you. My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: tahoe]
#8192488 - 03/25/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you'd like to see more of my Ps cyan grow log click here
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#8202977 - 03/27/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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flushme
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: dumbum39]
#8205131 - 03/28/08 07:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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no, but the pic of the wall is under some stairs i think its so bad because we come in with wet shoes and then they drip down under there
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Re: ps cyan cardboard contam w/ black mold [Re: flushme]
#8236863 - 04/04/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats some weak shit.
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