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 U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate 
#8152195 - 03/16/08 01:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Glaciers are shrinking at record rates and many could disappear within decades, the U.N. Environment Program said Sunday.
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Scientists say warming would have a huge affect on India where the Himalayas feeds its rivers.
Scientists measuring the health of almost 30 glaciers around the world found that ice loss reached record levels in 2006, the U.N. agency said.
UNEP warned that further ice loss could have dramatic consequences particularly in India, whose rivers are fed by Himalayan glaciers.
The west coast of North America, which gets much of its water from glaciers in mountain ranges such as the Rockies and Sierra Nevada, also would be affected, it said.
"There are many canaries emerging in the climate change coal mine," UNEP's executive director Achim Steiner said in a statement. "The glaciers are perhaps among those making the most noise and it is absolutely essential that everyone sits up and takes notice."
He urged governments to agree stricter targets for emissions reductions at an international meeting next year in the Danish capital, Copenhagen.
On average, the glaciers shrank by 4.9 feet in 2006, the most recent year for which data are available.
The most severe loss was recorded at Norway's Breidalblikkbrea glacier, which shrank 10.2 feet in 2006, while Chile's Echaurren Norte glacier was the only one to grow slightly thicker.
"The latest figures are part of what appears to be an accelerating trend with no apparent end in sight," said Wilfried Haeberli, director of the World Glacier Monitoring Service.
The Zurich-based body conducted the study on which the findings are based.
Haeberli said glaciers lost an average of about a foot of ice a year between 1980 and 1999. But since the turn of the millennium the average loss has increased to about 20 inches
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 Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Coaster]
#8152500 - 03/16/08 07:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank zappa, the ice age is finally ending.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Coaster]
#8152652 - 03/16/08 08:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow, they measured thirty glaciers...
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: afoaf]
#8152708 - 03/16/08 09:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How can they just slip in this urge to control carbon. I don't see anything in that little segment to support a link.
Also, the idea of glaciers disappearing in 30 years assumes a warming trend will continue.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Coaster]
#8152721 - 03/16/08 09:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's great. It'll make it easier to drill for oil in the artic.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Luddite]
#8152738 - 03/16/08 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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California is going to sink.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: 2end4]
#8152742 - 03/16/08 09:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are such a tease. It's not nice.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: zappaisgod]
#8152856 - 03/16/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard a Republican strategist today saying he thought you guys might take California in the general.
True/False?
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8152871 - 03/16/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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he's high.
high on space dope.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: afoaf]
#8152878 - 03/16/08 10:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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*moon crack
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8153043 - 03/16/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said:
I heard a Republican strategist today saying he thought you guys might take California in the general.
True/False?
It would surprise me but the Republicans have hardly begun to hammer the Dem candidate, since they are doing such a good job of it themselves. Two Dem assholes with essentially the same policy positions going at each other tooth and nail over bullshit all the while trying to get the exclusively liberal vote. In a few months, they are going to have to switch gears as to what demographic they need to pander to and their previous statements will most certainly be held against them.
I find it quite an indictment of the Democrat Party that the best they could come up with in an election that they should win is these two flawed morons. Hillary is Hillary and the Invisible Man of Hopey-Change is going to get even more damaged in the general election than he has in the primary with this whole bunch of America Sucks friends he has. That includes his fatuous wife, who can't help but be interpreted as some Black/Gender Studies Queen of Outrage. Then there's Rezko (and I do think there is something there) and who knows what else.
So, the answer is not likely but not by any means impossible. This could be McGovern all over again. A vulnerable Republican candidate who goes on to steamroller an utter moron Dem. That debacle was the reason the Dems went for the whole superdelegate thing in the first place. They recognized that the people was an ass. Unfortunately for them, what they failed to recognize is that the people is the only ass they have and if it thinks it has been robbed of its candidate that ass may well rise up to bite the Dem candidate in November.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: zappaisgod]
#8153273 - 03/16/08 01:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
zappaisgod said:
the reason the Dems went for the whole superdelegate thing in the first place. They recognized that the people was an ass. Unfortunately for them, what they failed to recognize is that the people is the only ass they have and if it thinks it has been robbed of its candidate that ass may well rise up to bite the Dem candidate in November.
So True.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: lonestar2004]
#8153761 - 03/16/08 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have half of a post written up about how the superdelegates are going to save the party.
I should finish it and post it sometime soon...
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8153848 - 03/16/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who they gonna come up with? Al Gore? John Kerry? Walter fucking Mondale?
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: zappaisgod]
#8153859 - 03/16/08 03:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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No.
It's more along the lines of how there is no way they will let Hillary get the nomination, or let this drag on all the way to the convention.
I am still of the opinion that B-Rock can handily whip Saigon John. His little shtick about endless war and stoically enduring hardship may work well w/ your self-flagellating base, but it's not going to play in Middle America.
Nobody wants to hear that shit, whether you believe it to be true or not.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8153898 - 03/16/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Except he didn't say it. But that's OK. Barry said the same thing. Except when he said something else.
Mac beats either one. You'll see.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: zappaisgod]
#8153904 - 03/16/08 03:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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He said it, but it was taken out of context?
Get the fuck out of here.
It's Classic Politician Double-Speak. Your base hears what they want to hear and you can spin it to mean something completely different to the moderates.
You know it and I know it.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8153948 - 03/16/08 04:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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In case you hadn't noticed, we still have troops in.....Germany. That is what he was referring to. And Barry backtracked on an immediate pullout. So that's that.
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: zappaisgod]
#8153989 - 03/16/08 04:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's what he said he was referring to the next day when it became a big deal.
You take his word for the fact that is what he meant.
Like he has never put his foot in his mouth before?
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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
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Re: U.N.: Glaciers shrinking at record rate [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8154162 - 03/16/08 05:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So which is it? You assert he meant to keep fighting for 100 years and then you assert he mis-spoke. Pick one. I think he made himself quite clear on what he meant. You just want to play.
Meanwhile, no one has any idea what Barry will do. All he runs on is a record of what he would have done. If he had been somebody.
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