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 1onemind1
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 Why bother fruiting mushrooms? 
#8135911 - 03/12/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello,
If someone lived in a country where growing psilocybin was legal and wanted to use some once per month, would the following tek be beter than messing around with humidity levels and perlite in a fruiting chamber?
http://www.shroomery.org/64/The-Foolproof-Psilocybe-Cubensis-Mycelial-Culture-Technique
I didnt realize that mycelium contained psilocybin. Doing it this way obviously produces less yeilds than 3 or 4 flushes of fruit but if you only wanted 12 hits per year then you would only need to produce 3 jars at a time, 4 times a year.
Does this really work?
What are potential drawbacks to this method? Is there a risk of drinking contaminants that are in the jar?
Thanks for any info
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Anno
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8135914 - 03/12/08 08:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Which tek?
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8135918 - 03/12/08 08:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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read more books
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: Anno]
#8135920 - 03/12/08 08:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8135928 - 03/12/08 08:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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well i guess the benefit would be that u can colonize bulks suibstrates and get more end product.... he's using 7 jars for 14 doses(if i read correctly) 7 jars will colonize poo in bulk and produce somewhere in the range of 50 to 100 doses
im not knocking it... it seems like a nice experiment
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8135929 - 03/12/08 08:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, yes, mycelium does contain psilocybin, but far less than the fruiting bodies. "Your" tek works though.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8135947 - 03/12/08 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: Anno]
#8135954 - 03/12/08 09:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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by the way.... anno its nice to see ya.
it would be cool to do some cyan, pan or azure mycelium. always wanted to try those. but was afraid i couldn't get them to fruit
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#8135980 - 03/12/08 09:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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seems like less work to let it sit and fruit and get way more out of it.
i guess patience TRULY IS a virtue!
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: jeetered]
#8136052 - 03/12/08 09:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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True 
I just figured it is a way for cheap asses to get a trip without buying perlite, fruiting chamber, thermostat and heater etc etc. Also, it would be easier to conceal, less likely to get caught if you need to do it on the sly and its quick and clean with a nice glass of cranaberry juice.
I might drink one of my jars while the other 5 go into the fruiting chamber and compare the results.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8136224 - 03/12/08 10:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fruiting invitro gives you mushrooms without a fruiting chamber, perlite etc. 
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: Mana]
#8136430 - 03/12/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Beside the fact that mycelium -as Anno already said- contains WAY less active alkaloids, it's just a pretty gross thing to do, to eat the whole substrate...
Imagining to grow a bulk tub (straw and SHIT) and eating this.. Sorry, but I prefer fruits over this.
Besides, it's WAY more fun to grow fruits than it is to grow mycelium... For me and I guess for MOST of the people in here, this hobby ain't about having mushrooms to consume all the time, but for the fun of growing them.
It's like Lego. Everyone loves to to plug it together but no one actually plays with it...
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8136458 - 03/12/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you want to fruit in vitro, look into Mexicana A strain, Tampanensis... Atlantis or Jalisco. All these strains (none of 'em are cubes) can be grown on grain, in vitro. Philosopher's stones are the way to go.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: Rose]
#8137284 - 03/12/08 02:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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or do poo bags
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: jeetered]
#8137773 - 03/12/08 04:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't want to high-jack this thread, so I created a new one. But I remember reading something close to this, but more detailed many years ago in Adam Gottlieb's book Psilocybin Production. I've gone ahead and transfered the pages of the book that discussed the method to the internet.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: 1onemind1]
#8137814 - 03/12/08 04:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the mycelium has to reach the fruiting stage anyways to have a decent concentration of alkaloids anyways. You might as well fruit them. Besides their beautiful! Who wouldn't want too.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: C20H25N3O]
#8137827 - 03/12/08 04:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I suggest people stop F'n around with this (or PM each other) cause if the FDA can prove that myc contains an adequate amount of psylocibin, then this hobbie might just get much harder!!!
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: Cheesekiller]
#8137847 - 03/12/08 04:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Cheesekiller said:
I suggest people stop F'n around with this (or PM each other) cause if the FDA can prove that myc contains an adequate amount of psylocibin, then this hobbie might just get much harder!!!
-CK
I apologize, I didn't realize this was such a touchy issue. If people feel this way feel free to close the thread I just made.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: C20H25N3O]
#8138260 - 03/12/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I doubt it is that big of a deal. But anyway, have you ever considered doing one polyfill monotub? Do it once dry and save. You could have enough for a long time.
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Re: Why bother fruiting mushrooms? [Re: ScavengerType]
#8138342 - 03/12/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So if you live in a place where growing psychoactive mushrooms is legal....Why do you need to do this on the sly? And to be THAT desperate to trip points to other problems.
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