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Offlinecivicracerx7
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You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll?
    #8037962 - 02/18/08 01:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

jars look 100% colonised but Im wanting to wait a few extra days to let the mycelial network secure itself
las time I birthed early they ALL got mold

Was curious how long you guys wait?

until you see pins forming then dunk overnight or what?

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: civicracerx7]
    #8037968 - 02/18/08 01:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

once the jar is 100%, i would wait like 2 days after that to let the inside fully colonize

then dunk away, dont wait for pins THEN dunk

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: Atheist]
    #8038161 - 02/18/08 02:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The dunk and roll is to initiate pinning. Don't wait till pinning and then do it. Like Atheist said, wait till the outside is fully colonized and then give it a few days to make sure the inside is colonized. Then do your dunk and roll. The dunk and roll is kind of like a little casing layer for a cake designed to help with pinning not after pinning starts.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: nugjug]
    #8038173 - 02/18/08 02:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

pins love nothing more then to be dunked in water and rolled around in vermiculite. If you listen closely you can hear there screams of joy while you do so.


Really??? Think about what you are asking.


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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: tahoe]
    #8038183 - 02/18/08 02:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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tahoe said:
pins love nothing more then to be dunked in water and rolled around in vermiculite. If you listen closely you can hear there screams of joy while you do so.


Really??? Think about what you are asking.




:hehehe:

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: nugjug]
    #8038189 - 02/18/08 02:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

theres no reason for the myc to pin if kept in a dark place.

i kept my jars 9 days after fully colonization.(shoe box in closet)
and did not see a single pin.

wait a a few days. id say 3-5

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: civicracerx7]
    #8038209 - 02/18/08 02:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no. nobody waits for pins to dunk and roll. but if you do see pins and you dunk and roll, you are still fine. I late case my tubs all the time and they seem to do just fine.


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

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poor fucking children of the early 1900's.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #8038217 - 02/18/08 02:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So many misconceptions are passed around in the shroomery. one of the more famous is water touching pins causing mutations and stalls and whatnot - MYTH. If the water droplet sits on the mushroom while it grows enough it will mutate but simply touching a mushroom in an area doesn't do anything.


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

conclusion:
poor fucking children of the early 1900's.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #8038294 - 02/18/08 02:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok I was just remembering because my first ever grow I had pins about 4 days after full colonozation and had good success that time



Ill just give it a few more days let the inside colonize

dunk roll and wait some more

damn all this waiting lol

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: civicracerx7]
    #8038326 - 02/18/08 02:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes, waiting is the hard part. :wink: just hang in there!


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

conclusion:
poor fucking children of the early 1900's.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #8038344 - 02/18/08 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Doesn't matter if theres pins or not. AS long as there's adaquate FAE present the water will evaporate and the pins will grow. Same thing as outside. I would though recommend leaving your terrarium TOP open for a few hours....drill the 1/4 inch holes about pencil size 100-200 all over the terrarium.


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bryanbzl said:
So many misconceptions are passed around in the shroomery. one of the more famous is water touching pins causing mutations and stalls and whatnot - MYTH. If the water droplet sits on the mushroom while it grows enough it will mutate but simply touching a mushroom in an area doesn't do anything.




It won't mutate...mutants are caused by radiation and genetically formed by multi spore inoculation.

Edited by dumbfounded1600 (02/18/08 02:59 PM)

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8038374 - 02/18/08 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what the fuck are you talking about?

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: Atheist]
    #8038388 - 02/18/08 03:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Dunking and rolling if the pins are on or not. It simply just doesn't matter as long as theres adequate FFAE for it to evaporate. And in low 70'sF fruiting temps preferably.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8038395 - 02/18/08 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Doesn't matter if theres pins or not. AS long as there's adaquate FAE present the water will evaporate and the pins will grow. Same thing as outside. I would though recommend leaving your terrarium TOP open for a few hours....drill the 1/4 inch holes about pencil size 100-200 all over the terrarium.


Quote:

bryanbzl said:
So many misconceptions are passed around in the shroomery. one of the more famous is water touching pins causing mutations and stalls and whatnot - MYTH. If the water droplet sits on the mushroom while it grows enough it will mutate but simply touching a mushroom in an area doesn't do anything.




It won't mutate...mutants are caused by radiation and genetically formed by multi spore inoculation.




Actually, if there is a water droplet sitting on your cap when it is in the later stages of rapid growth the cap WILL mutate. It has happened to me MANY times. Mutations caused by radiation and mutations caused by physical contact are two different things.


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

conclusion:
poor fucking children of the early 1900's.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #8038435 - 02/18/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Really? I'll make a post about it later on...how does it work? :smile:

This is news to me..

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: nugjug]
    #8039011 - 02/18/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok so you are saying that if i birth a cake, let the pins come out

i can still dunk it for 12 hours?

the pins dont die when they are completely submerged?

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: Atheist]
    #8039053 - 02/18/08 05:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

haha yeah they probably will die.


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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8039056 - 02/18/08 05:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

EDIT

ok actually you CAN dunk with pins, keep it a little shorter than average but it shouldnt matter


Edited by Atheist (02/18/08 05:34 PM)

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: Atheist]
    #8039349 - 02/18/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

exactly... a little something that RR told me in one of my posts a while back. Pins survive very well underwater for a pretty decent period of time. a 12 hour soak with pins wouldn't affect them one bit. unless re-hydrating them is bad? :wink:


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

conclusion:
poor fucking children of the early 1900's.

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Re: You guys wait for pins to dunk and roll? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #8039398 - 02/18/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Don't listen to LSDevin hes a nooby noob

Yes you can dunk them for as long as after words you provide them with the roll of vermiculite and provide inadequate FFAE

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