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 Stoopid
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 Wicked Slow Colonization 
#8006226 - 02/10/08 07:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Might not have very many posts, but I've been a troll for a long, long, long time...
I know the best temperature to incubate at is around 85 degrees, give or take. What I don't understand is why my a-strains that I inoculated on Christmas Eve and birthed only a week ago took so ridiculously long to fully colonize? Is A-strain just a slow colonizer? As you can imagine, it's kinda hard searching for info about "A strain" mushrooms, so if anyone would have some insight to this, that'd be great.
The temperature was controlled in a closet with a space heater, so keeping the temperature steady was not really the problem.
Edited by Stoopid (02/10/08 07:55 PM)
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CubensisCutter
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Re: Wicked Slow Colonization [Re: Stoopid]
#8006308 - 02/10/08 08:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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5 weeks isnt exactly "rediculously long" for colonization. it is a little slow, but not bad. try turning the heat down to around 80, i read in a post a while ago that the temp inside your jars will be about 3 to 4 degrees warmer then the incubator temp, so 85 may be a bit high
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 flavoraid
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75-80f is ideal as the mycelium will bring that up to 77-82 (82 being optimal)
RR said something like 85f-87f+ being 80% as fast as 75f so it's better to be a little cooler than a little warmer. Also bacteria grows faster at higher temps.
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asknoquestions
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Re: Wicked Slow Colonization [Re: Stoopid]
#8006327 - 02/10/08 08:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Strain is not particularly important when considering colonization times. Multispore can be like that. Was your substrate too dry/wet? Also, incubation is not really necessary with elevated temperature.
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bagsofun
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Re: Wicked Slow Colonization [Re: flavoraid]
#8008707 - 02/11/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would not worry about temperatures.....I let all my bags colonize in a closet as well, only with no heater, just room temp which is probably in the high 60's this time of year. The colonization process creates warmth...I have a 5 lb. Hpoo/straw/other crap bag colonizing right now (about 2 weeks in) and the box its sitting in is literally warm on the bottom.
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flavoraid said:
75-80f is ideal as the mycelium will bring that up to 77-82 (82 being optimal)
RR said something like 85f-87f+ being 80% as fast as 75f so it's better to be a little cooler than a little warmer. Also bacteria grows faster at higher temps.
I remember RR saying something like that in another post, also agreeing that room temp is fine for colonization. Even if cooler/room temps did take longer, I'd rather wait than increase my risk of contams. Plus if your a steady grower, you can stagger you inoculation times so you have jars/bags fully colonizing in conveinient intervals.
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Re: Wicked Slow Colonization [Re: bagsofun]
#8008902 - 02/11/08 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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From what I've read, the "86F is best" myth has been debunked, recently too. Everyone says room temp. to maybe a little bit higher, between 75 and 80, is best. Any higher and you risk slowing it down, and have higher risk for contams because they like 86F more than shroom mycelium does.
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HybridprX
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You guy's are way off.
Temperatures exceeding 78-80f are way to hot for incubation and will result in wet spot very easily.
I incubate at anywhere from 74-78f anything higher always results in the wetter rye kernels producing some nasty wet spot.
It's been determined that higher temperatures encourage the growth of molds/bacteria more favorably then mycelium. If it was a really fast growing isolate you were working with, sure, 80-84f would probably help the mycelium colonize the substrate before anything else could set in but if its from a MS innoc, save yourselves the headache's I had to experience and incubate abit lower.
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