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Offlineshroomials
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Pinning before fully colinization!!!!
    #7888118 - 01/16/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok well my cakes arnt fully colinized and they already growing pins plz tell me what i should do. The myc is growing really slow also due to cold weather here.

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: shroomials]
    #7888127 - 01/16/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

keep them in the dark.

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: chubbmeister]
    #7888148 - 01/16/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if its really pinning that early it could be because of a contam... causing the myc to go into survival mode and trying to fruit. Just light will not initiate pinning as you need multiple things:

fae, 100% colonization, light, drop in co2


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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: donpatch]
    #7888292 - 01/16/08 01:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

doubt it's a contamination.. post some pics and we can give you a better idea as far as that goes..

it's not rare to have pins before your jar is done colonizing if you dont incubate it and have it possibly subject to light/colder temperatures..

it's not a big deal, just let the cake finish colonizing before you birth it.

p.s.... you work fuckin fast dude!  seems like just yesterday we were welcoming you to shroomery.. :laugh:

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7888304 - 01/16/08 01:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

are you looking at your jars everyday.. that will cause slow growth and invitro pinning... I used to look at them, and actually found this out the hard way... just leave them in the dark for 2 to 4 days WITHOUT LOOKING.. a watched pot never boils...

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7888362 - 01/16/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

DJYoshaBYD said:
are you looking at your jars everyday.. that will cause slow growth and invitro pinning... I used to look at them, and actually found this out the hard way... just leave them in the dark for 2 to 4 days WITHOUT LOOKING.. a watched pot never boils...




where do you get info like this? PROOF plz


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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: donpatch]
    #7889130 - 01/16/08 05:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My first ever cake was birthed a week ago and I picked 5 aborts and three extremely large cubes from the cake last night...

Pinning early could be contaim, too much light, or, in my personal opinion the mycelium roped out and grabbed the sustrate which pulled the verm/brf (or whatever tek you have) back... This way it leaves room for growth which offers space for a pin...

I let my cake with three same pins in the mason jar until the pins got so big they were about to grow out of the jar. So I birth'd it with great results...

However, the largest pin in the jar was also the first abort...

It's all a matter of how you want to proceed, and how many flushes you will get out of the cake...

Pictures will be best.

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: verminute]
    #7889155 - 01/16/08 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Here is the early birth'd cake 6 days after it was placed in the FC.



Not bad eh?

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: verminute]
    #7889542 - 01/16/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

light is a secondary trigger for fruiting.. if you dont believe me, noc up 2 jars the same way.. substrate, strain, etc... put one in the dark, then stick one in a place where it gets light.. tell me which one colonizes quicker... it will be the one in the dark.. I dont know the exact science, but I know light will slow down colonization... Like I said, I used to expose them to light all the time.. just because I was careless and always wanted to look at them... thats how I found out..

if you want to see how it does that, then try it, but Im not wasting time on it again.. haha

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7889797 - 01/16/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok haha drkrobotnik what do you meen. Have you been keeping time of me an how long i been on here, What do you meen i work fast???

Ok an i keep my cakes in dark at all times i have Metobites or what ever they are light yellow spots on the cake but there not doing much but its colinizing slow an i keep it at room tempemture so i dont know what could be causing this.

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: shroomials]
    #7889817 - 01/16/08 07:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it sounds like they cannot breath... either because of too much water, or its too tightly packed.. I have seen them do that when they get too hot, as well...

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: verminute]
    #7889826 - 01/16/08 07:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

no thats not that bad but was there only 3 cubes

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: shroomials]
    #7889839 - 01/16/08 07:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

my bad.. haha.. I dont know why I was under the impression we were talking about jars.. Im lit.. sorry

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7893682 - 01/17/08 04:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ok i need some answers only like one jar has pinning maybe 2 but very small pins an there staring to get smushed cause of the jar and i still need to dunk an roll i feel like im creating a disaster.

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: shroomials]
    #7893755 - 01/17/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that's ok

leave them on and then dunk it.. just dont bother rolling it until you're done with that flush..

put some verm on the top of the cake and spray it down though.. that way you dont have to roll and risk knocking that pin off.

that is if the pin doesn't come off while taking the cake out of the jar.. then you might not have to worry about it.

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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7893935 - 01/17/08 04:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There was an exact duplicate thread to this one last week. Look back and you'll see the suggestions. No need to type it all over again.
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Re: Pinning before fully colinization!!!! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7894986 - 01/17/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

OK RR. But drkrobotnik umm isnt rolling important in the dunk an roll process.

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