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wbs soaked in straw juice?
    #7792520 - 12/23/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wbs soaked in straw juice?

what do you think?, anyone tried it. are there any posts hiding out there? some of you guys are good at finding info buried in the depths of this site. just wondering what your thoughts may be..


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: zigzag]
    #7792602 - 12/23/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Don't bother. Just do Doc's Wild Birdseed tech.

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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: zigzag]
    #7792647 - 12/23/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

grain has allot of nitrogen in it to begin with....give it a shot though. experimentation is what continues to push this community foreword. some of us soak our grains in a 50% coffee 50% water solution with about a tsp. gypsum added per gallon. that works real nicely. it lowers the Ph a little (coffee) and adds calcium carbonate and sulfur (gypsum) all of which aid in mushroom production. gypsum also works to keep the grains from sticking to each other thus making jar shaking more effective. coffee also adds some nitrogen and probably something else beneficial as well. it is unclear at this point to me if the caffeine in the coffee is beneficial or not, but i believe it is.


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7792822 - 12/23/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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nicely. it lowers the Ph a little (coffee) and adds calcium carbonate and sulfur (gypsum) all of which aid in mushroom production.






It adds calium, not calcium carbonate. Calcium carbonate (CaCO3) and gypsum (CaSO4:2H2O) are different molecules


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: Nibin]
    #7792848 - 12/23/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

right on, thanks nibin.

i just got a little confused back when i read RR's first post here


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7792890 - 12/23/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Must be a typo


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: Nibin]
    #7792905 - 12/23/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats what i figured after re-checking with a couple other resources. thanks again for clearing that up though.


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: lostinautumn7]
    #7793891 - 12/23/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yeah ive been reading about the coffee deal. sounds great and man do i love my coffee. doc wbs tek works great. just had some straw juice in a pot and wanted to start soaking some wbs at the same time.

i'm new to the mycology scene and was wondering where i could find exactly what nutrients mushrooms require to grow. if you super charge some substrate with nutrients, will it burn your shrooms, or will it allow you to get bigger and more flushes after rehydration.


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: zigzag]
    #7794898 - 12/24/07 08:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Mushrooms EAT their food, so you want to provide solid food. Don't use the liquid left over from soaking straw.
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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7795012 - 12/24/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

your nutrients should come from you bulk sub, not your spawn


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: anarchOi]
    #7795196 - 12/24/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Straw water works for LC. That's about all I'd use it for...

It's also a pain in the rear to use and is messy, so unless you're hydrating the straw anyway, don't bother.

If you want to hydrate another bulk substrate with straw water, that might have an effect. It'd be much more worthwhile to mix the straw ITSELF in with the sub, though.

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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7795398 - 12/24/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

points taken, thanks!


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: zigzag]
    #7797278 - 12/25/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what about contams in the straw you soaked?
like i'm not sure i fully understand
are you intending to pressure cook the straw water?

to me it kind of seems null to dunk a cake in nutrient water, because the mycelium is going to have quite a hard time colonizing water, be it straw water or not

also, this will just coat your usually contam proof cake with a layer of open to contamness

the only benefit i can see from nutrient water is if it's added to a substrate before colonizing, perhaps if you saved all your straw water and used that to bring your substrate up to feild capacity, you could replace alot of nutrients lost during soaking


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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: lbtchnlgs]
    #7797500 - 12/25/07 05:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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lbtchnlgs said:
Don't bother.  Just do Doc's Wild Birdseed tech.




Yeah, I have tried it and I had no improvement in my flushes, well not any noticeable difference anyway.I have added it to my agar also-no improvement that I seen.
Experimentation is the art of this community, that's what we are doing here-trying to improve our cultivation techniques. Sometimes it works out(ie, coffee) and sometimes it fails, but, in the long run, we learn from our trials and mistakes and the trials and mistakes of others.
I would get a couple of grows under your belt first then do what ever your mind wants.

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Re: wbs soaked in straw juice? [Re: doc34]
    #7797787 - 12/25/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Straw is dry. Therefore, the 'straw juice' is the dirt, pesticides, and other debris that is stuck to the surface of the straw. Don't use it for anything. Mushrooom mycelium doesn't want the dirty brown water you wash off the straw. Mushroom mycelium wants to eat the straw itself.
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