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OfflineBrAiN
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Are we going to war with Iran?
    #7762006 - 12/15/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OK AGAIN.. Even though I keep asking this no one seems to stick to it.

This thread... ARE WE GOING TO WAR SOON WITH IRAN (Soon being < 10 years or so) and why do you think so. No debates over sources or anything.

PURE OPINION. YES OR NO and Why?

Me Personally.. I doubt it. I think we'll just be watching each other's backs for a while putting on a show.

Anyone else?

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7762149 - 12/15/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, you are. Beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Why?

Because all you Americans are going to allow it when it happens. The men behind the curtain have already decided to.

It's following the Iraq war protocol to the letter.

The Neo cons who troll this forum will even seek to justify ruining a country which poses no threat to you.


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7762227 - 12/15/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No.

Because once we do, there will cease to be a "we," because we'll need to have a draft to be able to attack them. I don't know about you, but once I get a draft notice all bets are off.

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7762245 - 12/15/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think the Bush administration would like to, but they lost all their credibility on Iraq, and just don't have the political capital(nor the human resources) to do so. It may be a distinct possibility if Rudy gets elected(which he won't).


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7762274 - 12/15/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not happening.

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7762493 - 12/15/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no, neocon war mongers wont get elected as president in the next 10 years.


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7762517 - 12/15/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A full-scale war? No. While their conventional military would easily be destroyed, the US does not have the means to fight against 15 million Baseej soldiers.

We might bomb them to keep our Sunni allies happy, though.

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7763157 - 12/15/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes. 100%.

If you think no... wow...


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7763627 - 12/15/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Ginseng1 said:
Yes. 100%.

If you think no... wow...




What sort of reasoning are you basing this on? If you're so sure, please enlighten us with your limitless wisdom.

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7764566 - 12/16/07 01:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt we'll see an escalation of hostilities with Iran.

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7764672 - 12/16/07 02:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> I doubt we'll see an escalation of hostilities with Iran.

The easiest way out of Iraq is through Iran. Should help increase oil prices for another few years as well.


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #7764687 - 12/16/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I doubt we'll see an escalation of hostilities with Iran. [/quote

Are you forgetting about the bet we made a year or so back already?

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7766940 - 12/16/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I am almost 100% sure that there will not be a United States war with Iran.

I would bet money on it.

It doesn't make sense anymore. It would be enormously unpopular, making the Iraq War look like a Great Patriotic Crusade. GWB is out of office in a year and a few days, and things aren't looking up for the Republicans. He is not going to start a protracted war against an enemy much stronger than the one in Iraq. If you think hunting down Baathist's in the big sand deserts of Iraq was bad, how are you going to enjoy the mountains of Iran?

Now, if Israel bombs Iran one of these days, thats another story. This looks more and more probable as the days go on.


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7766989 - 12/16/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Quote:

Ginseng1 said:
Yes. 100%.

If you think no... wow...




What sort of reasoning are you basing this on? If you're so sure, please enlighten us with your limitless wisdom.




What sort of reasoning? Well, you look at a countries shameless history for one. Then you look at its goals. You look at what the country has done to the world, its propaganda, and the manipulations done to its very people. Finally you then consider the "men behind the curtain". Its all part of the plan. Whether its a big war, a small one, a coup, or a manipulation, its all part of the big fuckin plan that has been planned all along. There is no escape.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7767004 - 12/16/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

So do you believe we will go to war with Iran before the Bush presidency is over?

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Finally you then consider the "men behind the curtain". Its all part of the plan. Whether its a big war, a small one, a coup, or a manipulation, its all part of the big fuckin plan that has been planned all along. There is no escape.




That is nothing but baseless delusion. Also, Zeitgeist has been torn to shreds, but I wouldn't want you to have to look at anything which doesn't fit your narrow beliefs.

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7767049 - 12/16/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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So do you believe we will go to war with Iran before the Bush presidency is over?





No.

But they will eventually. Even if the U.S. isnt the catalyst in Irans inevitable invasion, another country will be. And they will all be operating under the same entity. The U.S. WILL be there. Who knows when? I'd take a wild stab and say within half a decade.


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7767056 - 12/16/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Also, Zeitgeist has been torn to shreds, but I wouldn't want you to have to look at anything which doesn't fit your narrow beliefs.




Torn to shreds by whom? Oh how I would love to look into that one..

Thats like saying the CIA has never commited such attrocities. They have. They always have. And theyre still doing it. Always.

What are the delusions really? The fact that the CIA was behind the coup in Chile? The attempted and failed coup in Venezuela? Is the delusion that alot of people have been murdered? Whos really delusional here?


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7767228 - 12/16/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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So do you believe we will go to war with Iran before the Bush presidency is over?





No.

But they will eventually. Even if the U.S. isnt the catalyst in Irans inevitable invasion, another country will be. And they will all be operating under the same entity. The U.S. WILL be there. Who knows when? I'd take a wild stab and say within half a decade.




So w/in the next 5 years, someone is going to invade Iran, and it will be the US' fault?

No other country in the region can project force outside of its own borders, or countries that it shares a border with. So who is going to invade Iran?

Tajikistan?

Azerbaijan?

Come on. The only country other than the US that even has a slight beef with Iran is Israel. Israel distrusts enormously the new US NEI that says Iran is developing nuclear weapons, and have been known to strike at targets in other countries w/out a declaration of war. I would not be the least bit surprised if Israel bombed an Iranian facility or two.

But they are not going to invade Iran like the US did Iraq. They would need to transit Iraq to get through to Iran, and there is not one thing that the United States Government wants to avoid more than regional Arab-Israeli war.


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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7767467 - 12/16/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i hoped you didnt remember that...

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Re: Are we going to war with Iran? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7767478 - 12/16/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

we still got till Bush is out of office, but i think im gonna lose, and you'll get your meddling 50$!

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