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Best strain/variety for spiritual high?
    #7584229 - 11/01/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard that Mexican strains of cubensis are the "most spiritual." Is there any sense to this? Does strain/variety really matter?

I am a complete newbie at psychedelics. I want to try shrooms for their ego-barrier-reduction aspect to complement meditation practice. The "set-and-setting" will be very meditative and spiritual.

My best option seems to be to get spores and grow my own -- no problem, sounds like fun. But which species, which varieties suit my interests best (Beginner grower, looking for spiritual high.) ?

Edited by Sugar (11/01/07 02:35 PM)

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Sugar]
    #7584245 - 11/01/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Individual]
    #7584260 - 11/01/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Umm, well.
This is very subjective, as all/most magic mushrooms contain the same chemicals, so the drug is the same, its all about mindset.

And the easiest to grow is cubensis.

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Individual]
    #7584273 - 11/01/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Look at it this way... all the different strains of cubensis you are seeing and contemplating on growing are just that.. cubensis. They all contain the same chemical (of course no mushroom is the same in potency, even within the same strain). its how your body and mind react to them that makes them spiritual or not. When it comes down to it, it is you who perceives the spirituality within the mushroom, it's not going to force spirituality upon you.


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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
    #7584324 - 11/01/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybin is Psilocybin is Psilocybin .. Mood, Minset, and Setting my friend


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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Sugar]
    #7584489 - 11/01/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Sugar said:
I've heard that Mexican strains of cubensis are the "most spiritual."



Where did you hear this...?

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Robo]
    #7584511 - 11/01/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it all comes down to you. YOU have the power to control your thought patterns, not the drug.

you can have a spiritual experience with no drug. you can have one with music. there is nothing special about a particular strand of mushroom that will give you a spiritual trip--that same trip can also give you a delusional trip, or a paranoid trip too, if your mindset leads it that way.

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Crystal G]
    #7584592 - 11/01/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you for all your responses.

I will go with the concept that Psilocybin is Psilocybin is Psilocybin. It begs the question, then, about why people bother to keep track of different strains. It makes sense for tomatoes, cucumbers, or apples, because different strains of these have different properties of taste and use. For shrooms, though, if each is doing the same thing, why bother keeping specific strains?

I saw the statement about the Mexican strains being more spiritual on the web page of one of the sponsors of shroomery.org where spores are sold commercially. Could just be advertising blurb - no biggie.

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Sugar]
    #7584637 - 11/01/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i always thought there were other alkaloids in mushrooms besdes psilocybin/psilocin i think it was called baeocystin?


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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: apfrommsp]
    #7584733 - 11/01/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You are correct, the four main alkaloids found in psychoactive mushrooms are psilocybin, psilocin, baeocystin, and norbaeocystin (tryptamine analogs of psilocybin). In comparison to psilocybin/psilocin,however, the two are present only in very small amounts.

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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: Robo]
    #7585461 - 11/01/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well, different strains can have different potency, but the effects will always be on the same scale. 3 grams of mushrooms A might get you to a level 3/5 trip, while 3 grams of mushroom B might get you to level 4/5. But a level 3 trip on one strain will be the same as a level 3 trip on any other strain (if you eliminate set and setting as variables, obviously these are the main deciding factors.)


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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: g00ru]
    #7586147 - 11/01/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The reason people grow different strains is due to the pure enjoyment of mycology... not so much about the trip in that sense.  It's a hobby and a learning experience... and definitely addicting! :awesome:


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Re: Best strain/variety for spiritual high? [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
    #7586165 - 11/01/07 11:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I did always hear though that philosophers stone was probably the most different psilocybin experience from the rest.That is was very spiritual and philosophical. Anyone ever gotten to eat philosophers stone?


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