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Another ID P. semilanceata?
    #7560615 - 10/25/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry, to for another thread on this. Just a quick ID if you have the time. Much appreciated.
I'm thinking these are Liberty Caps (Psilocybe semilanceata).
Tell me what you think. Thanks everyone!

Location - Seattle, Wa.

Cap - Small conic with slight bulge towards tip. A faded or dull brown with grey (In pic).

Stem - thin, long(2-4 inches), sometimes curves. Tan or white.

Gill - Darker than cap. Almost a black.

Habitat - Scattered bundles throughout a local grassfield. Plenty.

Microscopic features - Clear spores. Dark but clear.









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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: mathewww]
    #7560753 - 10/25/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Don't think they are, try a spore print, see the the caps are wet and slimy, and I don't notice any nipples either.

But I could be wrong, wait for proper ID before ingestion.

Good luck.

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: bort]
    #7560773 - 10/25/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I'm waiting for more opinion. Thanks for yours man, it's really appreciated. Any input is great.

Now the print is finished and it turns out to be whitish with a slight purple shade from some angles.

I don't know. We'll see.

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: mathewww]
    #7560787 - 10/25/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

100% sure they're not libs, pretty sure they're P. silvatica(not active).



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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Jaymes]
    #7560822 - 10/25/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'll be throwing those out, I guess. Unless someone else begs to differ.

Thanks for the help man.


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: mathewww]
    #7560912 - 10/25/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Study the characteristics of liberty caps thoroughly. The stem of this kind is very fragile, and kinda see through.


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Jaymes]
    #7560980 - 10/25/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Those are panaeolina foenscii. Jaymes, psilocybe silvatica is active, and those ain't silvatica.


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7560995 - 10/25/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'll just bitch slap myself real quick and say those are probably actually some type of mycena. Where'd you find em?


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7561041 - 10/25/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Northern Seattle.
They were in bundles of about 20 and those bundles were scattered through out a few acres of open grass. Just grass essentially.

No trees right nearby.

It's dried out a bit now and the color of it has become really dark. Almost charcoal-dark.


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: mathewww]
    #7561102 - 10/25/07 10:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy bad. Well, they're still not libs :laugh: I've found those guys(psathyrella?) everywhere, I thought they were libs too at first.


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Jaymes]
    #7561109 - 10/25/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Mycena or Psathyrella

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7561139 - 10/25/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I threw 'em out.

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: mathewww]
    #7561267 - 10/25/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Mycena, 100%

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7561668 - 10/26/07 01:55 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Mh... I don't really think they are Mycena.
Myacena has white spores and white gills, while the msuhrooms above have dark/pale gills.

I'd say Psathyrella corrugis...

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7563783 - 10/26/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Psathyrella corrugis gills are notably less adnate than those shown here.

Mycena Amicta Is a variable species in color and form and is known to leave whitish spore deposits and have pale gills. seems a closer bet, compare the morphology. Note the rather uniform appearance of the classic mycenoid well-organized rubbery-pellicle, Psathyrella tend to have a more fragile, crumbly-pellicle, MUCH like the ever-infamous Paneolina foenisecci (Also often considered a member of the Psathyrella genus)

Its more likely one of the simmilar species to amicta in the mycena genus tho. like Mycena stipata perhaps. (a MORE likely one actually)

also Psathyrella corrugis is a blackish-spored mushroom, as all psathyrellas occur either black or brownish in deposit.

it definately wouldn't look "whitish with purple tint at certain angles" with this morphology you ought to be thinking mycenoid or MAYBE collyboid. (but not in this case)

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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7563808 - 10/26/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

They look nasty, anyway.


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Re: Another ID P. semilanceata? [Re: mathewww]
    #7563979 - 10/26/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

theyre not libs. Try looking for ones with a nipple at the top and a kind of film over the caps. Look at my avatar :laugh:

theyre not foes either, wrong colour and wrong stem.


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