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badjessejames
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Myth about shroom harvest.......
#751665 - 07/16/02 05:37 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anyone else found that it doesn't really matter if you let your shrooms grow a little more after the veil breaks. Me and my friends have found that the potency is not affected enough compared to how much more weight you can get.....and as far as the taste goes....nobody can tell the difference.
Has anyone else found this to be true....?
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: badjessejames]
#751674 - 07/16/02 05:41 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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hmm u actually have a really good point. Do they actually grow a lot after the veil breaks? Ive only seen them turn black, doesnt that mean they are starting to rot.
I think this has already been tested though im sure. I still thinks it's best to pick after the veil breaks.
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badjessejames
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: shroom_assassin]
#751694 - 07/16/02 05:46 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, They grow ALOT more. When I do prints I let them get fully open and they put on alot more weight after the veil breaks.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: badjessejames]
#751708 - 07/16/02 05:51 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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no where near as potent though
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: badjessejames]
#751710 - 07/16/02 05:51 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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I also thought the reason you picked after the veil breaks is due to the fact that the shroom starts dropping spores after that, which kills off other shrooms.
I guess if it was a lone shroom it would be all good.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: badjessejames]
#751727 - 07/16/02 05:56 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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The assasin is correct. Don't let spores drop onto the fruiting surface. That signals the mycelium that it's done it's job and inhibits further flushes.
badj's correct also, they do lose potency to weight ratio.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: TM]
#751766 - 07/16/02 06:05 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, Ryche Hawk once said that if you see the veil starting to tear wait just a few hours and you get a 30 to 40 percent increase in yield with out the loss in potency. If i am missquoting you Ryche please feel free to clear this up.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: Abyss]
#751780 - 07/16/02 06:10 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe Ryche was talking about harvesting an entire flush at once and judging harvest time by the most mature shroom in the flush. That's the only way this theory works.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: TM]
#752802 - 07/17/02 07:01 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you don't pick the mushroom when the veil starts to break it will switch to spore mode. Your fruit might be bigger, but your psilocybin and psilocin content won't increase. Why eat more volume of mushroom when you don't have to?
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: Frog31337]
#752855 - 07/17/02 07:28 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wish people would learn how threads work before they just go hitting any old reply button they feel like!
Why are you replying to me with the same information I gave?
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: TM]
#753429 - 07/17/02 11:20 AM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Don't let spores drop onto the fruiting surface. That signals the mycelium that it's done it's job and inhibits further flushes.
Hmmm, I have never heard this, and it has not been my experience either.
In reply to:
they do lose potency to weight ratio.
Probably one of the most discussed theories, without any concrete evidence.
Good luck
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#753535 - 07/17/02 12:07 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Don't let spores drop onto the fruiting surface. That signals the mycelium that it's done it's job and inhibits further flushes.
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Hmmm, I have never heard this, and it has not been my experience either.
I guess you have some reading to do about the life cycle of mushrooms then.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: badjessejames]
#753555 - 07/17/02 12:18 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's a myth. Ryche has said that he can't tell the difference b/w unbroken veil shrooms and fully mature shrooms. And they gain as much as 50-150% in size after the veil breaks.
That seems to be utter b/s about the spo dropping stopping fruiting. Why would the mycelium sto b/c one shroom has dropped spores? The mycelium isn't going to live that much longer after it fruits so why not go all out and drop as many spores as possible?
I have seen straw that is mostly purple from the first flush fruit again.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: TM]
#753570 - 07/17/02 12:27 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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>I guess you have some reading to do about the life cycle of mushrooms then.
Can you point me to a publication, where it states that spores droping onto the fruiting surface signal the mycelium that it's done it's job ?
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: Anno]
#753584 - 07/17/02 12:32 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: TM]
#753602 - 07/17/02 12:43 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: Anno]
#753606 - 07/17/02 12:45 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gimme a break!
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: Anno]
#753683 - 07/17/02 01:18 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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See anno, what he means is he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about basically and made that reference because he didnt think you would have the book sitting next to you. At least thats what I think.
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: darkfly]
#753711 - 07/17/02 01:30 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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You think wrong! I know what I've read and have the book here, but refuse to look it up for a lazy skepitcal s.o.b. who's to busy being a know-it-all to look it up for himself..
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Re: Myth about shroom harvest....... [Re: darkfly] 1
#753717 - 07/17/02 01:31 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aborts are MUCH more potent then shroosm with wide open caps.
Mushrooms will put on a lot more weight if you let them go past thier viel breaking. I usually like to pick when they got an umbrella looken caps. Usually like 6-10 hours or so after breakage.
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