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 How to not feel sick on mushrooms? 
#7465449 - 09/28/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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So. I really want to take shrooms, and if things go as planned, I probably will this weekend with my boyfriend. I've taken them once before, in a very small amount (they were in brownies, an eighth was put in the brownie mix, and then we split it between a lot of people, so I didn't get a huge affect). I've been told that this time, I'd probably have fun if I took a bit less than an eighth myself. I really want to experience the trip, but I am so scared of feeling sick! I have had a phobia of vomiting for most of my life, so that is what worries me the most, but I'm scared of feeling physically bad at all. I tend to get panic attacks if I'm naseous, and I don't think that would be good for tripping. I would love to hear some solutions about what could calm the stomach or reduce/eliminate naseua/vomiting while tripping. I've heard different things from different people - such as fasting the day before taking mushrooms (should I be fasting now if I plan to take them tomorrow night?), drinking the mushrooms in tea, and sleeping for the first hour after ingesting them. I'm not sure what to believe. I would love to hear some ideas of what tends to work, or really any words that would help me feel more relaxed about it. I've done acid twice, I'm not too worried at all about what mushrooms could mentally make me feel, and I really want to experience the trip. I'm just scared of feeling physically bad. Any advice would be much appreciated 
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hmmm
well the tea always works really well for me...no sickness at all
i also fast before i dose..
if you plan on taking them tomorrow night i wouldnt eat anything tomorrow..
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i dont think putting them into brownies is such a good idea. itll burn the shit out of the psilocybin. The minimum heat for baking brownies is 315 degrees Fahrenheit isnt it? psilocybin starts to break down at 160 degrees Fahrenheit. And if you are trying to avoid nausea, you definately dont want to mix them with a solid food. That will put food in your stomach. And food and nausea don't mix all too well.
I think that mushroom nausea is really exaggurated. I've almost never felt nausea on mushrooms, and when i have, its lasted for 5 minutes, and its nothing that wasnt cured by simply sitting down.
If you are really worried about it, have some weed on hand and smoke that after you eat them. That should rid you of any nausea that may arrise.
hope that helps a bit, and i hope you have a good time. 
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I really want to experience the trip, but I am so scared of feeling sick! I have had a phobia of vomiting for most of my life, so that is what worries me the most, but I'm scared of feeling physically bad at all. I tend to get panic attacks if I'm naseous, and I don't think that would be good for tripping. I would love to hear some solutions about what could calm the stomach or reduce/eliminate naseua/vomiting while tripping.
You probably WILL experience nausea, and you probably WILL throw up. Because the nausea is almost completely psychological, your extreme phobia of getting sick will most likely be your ultimate downfall.
Think about it like this: It's your first time to do something that you've really been looking forward to doing. All you know about it is what you've been told... Your interest is also quite piqued because you really want to experience the trip. Your mind is subconsciously creating a mold of what you expect/hope it to be like. The problem with this is - in the back of your mind - you're brain is processing testimony based on the thought that: "This person has experienced a trip before, so they're already one step ahead of me - therefore there must be SOME validity to what they're saying." You have no control over this part of brain activity, however - so this is of no fault of your own. Unfortunately, most of this is rubbish. The experience is different for EVERYONE. Yes, its a good idea to read up on the basics of a chemical/substance before taking it yourself, but getting too personal/specific with the information you read can lead even the savviest drug-user astray.
Long story short, when you eat the mushrooms (or whichever method of ingestion you choose), do not think to yourself "I just ate a mushroom... Gross". Or "That thing has probably had all kind of stuff on it... Ew". These are common thoughts for first-time trippers. And the way you described yourself, they could possibly be triggers for your panic/anxiety to come up - ruining the undertone of your trip. The best thing you can do, is (I know it sounds lame and cliche) "Think happy thoughts". And by this I mean use the time you are eating them to set your mind at ease and get yourself mentally prepared for the experience. Tell yourself there isn't time to be worried about whats on/in them, you're getting ready for something incredible. Would you feel sick to go to Heaven if you were afraid of heights? 
Hope I didn't come across as mean or anything. Just want to impress upon you the fact that MOST nausea in relation to tripping is purely psychological.
Wish ya the best, post a trip report. 
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grind em up and put em in OJ, i didn't even taste/feel them.
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Hot cocoa is always great. You most likely won't vomit or have any nausea. As for fasting, I personally hate starving myself all day just because I want to do mushrooms later on. I think it's cool to just go to bed and wake up in the morning and dose. You've technically been fasting because you were asleep and you have the whole day ahead of you to have a blast. Night time tripping is cool sometimes too though.
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 Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Robo]
#7465624 - 09/28/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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mmm i eat them fresh, and never feel sick. some pretty nasty gas the day after though 
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Drewwyann]
#7465628 - 09/28/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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do people who feel nausea with psilocybin mushrooms feel that in general with all mushrooms?
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Locus]
#7465636 - 09/28/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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i doubt it. I'm assuming you mean edible mushrooms/gourmet ones.
They don't have any psychoactive chemicals, and though some people do react badly to fungus, it is a very small demographic. The odds of feeling nausea on magic mushrooms aren't too bad, but the odds of throwing up on a normal dose are pretty slim.
Edibles don't cause nausea. Its not the fungus that causes it, its the psilocybin and psilocin in magic mushrooms that does the work.
Again, just smoke some weed before-hand. It works wonders with the stomach.
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Drewwyann]
#7465645 - 09/28/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Drewwyann said:
i dont think putting them into brownies is such a good idea. itll burn the shit out of the psilocybin. The minimum heat for baking brownies is 315 degrees Fahrenheit isnt it? psilocybin starts to break down at 160 degrees Fahrenheit. And if you are trying to avoid nausea, you definately dont want to mix them with a solid food. That will put food in your stomach. And food and nausea don't mix all too well.
Woah, woah, woah man... Don't get into the specifics on the temperatures at which psilocybin (which is broken down INTO psilocin) begins to chemically breakdown.
Though you are correct, 315 degrees is too high a temperature for the mushrooms to withstand for very long... placing the number "160" on it is what puts that idea in random users' minds. Next thing you know, the next 15 "shroom recipe" posts are going to be filled with "Well... psilocybin/psilocin breaks down at 160 degrees... So... Umm... <fill in the blank>", you get what I'm saying?
We aren't licensed mycologists here. Therefore it would be advisable, for everyone's sake, NOT to place such a precise numeric value on such a variable piece of information.
Not trying to be rude.
Thanks.
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Edited by Hallucophetamine (09/28/07 09:06 PM)
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Hallucophetamine said:
We aren't licensed mycologists here.
Some might be if I'm not mistaken(I could be). Interesting user name btw.
Edited by Adagio (09/28/07 09:35 PM)
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Drewwyann]
#7465670 - 09/28/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah thats what i meant. but if its all in the head as someone else said in this thread then why would the psilocybin be the cause? or maybe its a combination of the two
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Hallucophetamine
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Robo]
#7465683 - 09/28/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Adagio said:
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Hallucophetamine said:
We aren't licensed mycologists here.
Some are if I'm not mistaken(I could be). Interesting user name btw.
Because no one has any real way to 100% KNOW - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that sort of information about anyone else on here... Its safer to assume there aren't any. Would you let an alleged "doctor" diagnose you online as opposed to an office visit? (Answer to yourself, honestly lol)
HOWEVER! I do not deny the fact that there are many users who are VERY experienced with certain aspects that perhaps not even a mycologist has experience with.
Oh, and thank you for the name comment. (I guess it wasn't meant negatively, correct?)
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Locus]
#7465692 - 09/28/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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psilocybin would be the cause because your body thinks it as a toxin. As that is what it is in nature, and that is more or less how it acts upon your body.
So your body tells you that it's bad, and it wants it out. Thus, nausea occurs. It is strongly a psychological nausea though. Whenever you start to think about the nausea, and start to worry about yourself throwing up, the nausea gets bad.
But whenever you just say "ok, everything is fine," you are usually good to go.
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from what I've read honey or brown rice syrup helps alot. just take a bite of mushroom, take a bite of sweet, and chew chew chew.
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if you decide to make mushroom tea, you can choose a tea that has anti-nausia effects. i don't know off the top of my head what specific plant has the anti-nausia properties, but i do know that my friends and i once made a tea with some addition herbs in it to reduce nausia, calm the body, and enhance our mental thoughts. and it worked pretty damn well
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All I'm saying is that there are a handful of very intelligent individuals at this site who completely have the know-how and skill that would enable them to, as you put it, "throw out numbers".
No it wasn't negative.
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Robo
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Hallucophetamine said:
Because no one has any real way to 100% KNOW - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that sort of information about anyone else on here
Quite true.
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you can choose a tea that has anti-nausia effects. i don't know off the top of my head what specific plant has the anti-nausia properties
I think ginger and mint are examples.
Edited by Adagio (09/28/07 09:32 PM)
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Re: How to not feel sick on mushrooms? [Re: Robo]
#7465738 - 09/28/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Adagio said:
All I'm saying is that there are a handful of very intelligent individuals at this site who completely have the know-how and skill that would enable them to, as you put it, "throw out numbers".
Fair enough. (But in such circumstances it would never be a single, nonvarying temperature  )
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jonathan_206 said:
from what I've read honey or brown rice syrup helps alot. just take a bite of mushroom, take a bite of sweet, and chew chew chew.
Perfect example of psychological influence over onesself. The "sweet taste" is a reassurance, even though it is by no means necessary for having a "good trip".
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somebody041 said:i don't know off the top of my head what specific plant has the anti-nausia properties
Classic example: ginger
**EDIT: Haha, Adagio already said it though: ginger**
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Edited by Hallucophetamine (09/28/07 09:42 PM)
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