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ready to go in FC?
    #7332985 - 08/25/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i did a search and couldn't really come up with an answer
so anyone with casing experience please tell me if these two are ready to go into the fruiting chamber with 12/12 light cycle?
or give them more time incubating? i dont wanna get that overlay bs
these are my first casings so i need to know
1 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/07-34/806982454-case_005.jpg
2 http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/07-34/806982454-case_005.jpg


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: wutang]
    #7333041 - 08/25/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

imo you need to wait some more.


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7333459 - 08/25/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yeah wait a little longer, and maybe patch those mycelium patches that have already come thru the casing.


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: clover606]
    #7333615 - 08/25/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

does anyone know if the coir to patch with has to be sterilized?


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: wutang]
    #7334215 - 08/25/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

pop it in the microwave for 4 minutes, two times, let cool and apply. Most people don't like a nutritious casing layer b/c of contams.


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: j_db69]
    #7335684 - 08/26/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

hey i added some damp vermiculite on top to protect the mycelium
from contams
does this look okay?
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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: wutang]
    #7335690 - 08/26/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Why are you using coir to case that substrate? You cannot use a nutritive casing layer. The mycelia will continue to colonize the coir and render your intent to provide a contaminate/humidity barrier useless. You're also opening up that "casing" layer to contaminates.

At the very least I would cover the entire coir layer with verm or with a non-nutritive casing layer like 50/50+. What does that casing layer consist of?

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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: Wronguy]
    #7335696 - 08/26/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

aw man, i've seen alot of people case with coir
the casing is made of coir and vermiculite


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: wutang]
    #7335711 - 08/26/07 09:46 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I do too, but that doesn't mean it's recommended. The reason people started to case with coir is to provide nutrients for the mycelia to penetrate the casing layer in the hopes that this will provide a good pinset. The problem with this is the mycelia will typically colonize the entire casing layer and render its purpose useless. Remember, a fully colonized casing layer is no casing layer at all.

A casing layer should always consist on a non-nutritive formulation and be used for the purpose of providing moisture to carry the first flush and to aid in warding off contaminates; although a colonized substrate has little chance of contaminating when the mycelia have control.

I strongly urge you to do some more research into casing layer recipes, as I have learned the hard way that coir is not friendly for this purpose. You're already into this grow, so monitor this carefully. I still strongly urge you to cover that casing up with some wet vermiculite and start fruiting.

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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: Wronguy]
    #7335742 - 08/26/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

okay thanks for the info
i did a little here
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/07-34/810154811-case_006.jpg
but maybe i should add more


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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: wutang]
    #7335905 - 08/26/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I would go ahead and cover the entire substrate with a thin layer.

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Re: ready to go in FC? [Re: Wronguy]
    #7336517 - 08/26/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you Wronguy for clearing up some misunderstandings
I had. Somewhere along the line I came up with the idea
that coir was non-nutritious.


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